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All Forum Posts by: Jeff C.

Jeff C. has started 8 posts and replied 263 times.

Post: What are your MOST CREATIVE WAYS of getting BANK FINANCING?

Jeff C.Posted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Bakersfield, CA
  • Posts 269
  • Votes 597
Originally posted by @Alvin Uy:
Originally posted by @Jeff C.:
Originally posted by @Alvin Uy:

Here's another idea that I have been using as additional income to offset my DTI... while also able to write-off some of my other expenses....

In my primary home, I have a dedicated office space where I run my other businesses. I have been "renting" out the room to my businesses. The rent amount is equivalent to my mortgages. Also, some of my utilities (phone lines, internet , cellphone bills, etc... even my car payments) are also directly paid by my business... and All are a huge biz write-offs. This significantly reduces my DTI... while also, showing a bigger cashflow. Win-win

Pretty sure you can't do it like this. The home office deduction can either be calculated as the percentage of the home that is EXCLUSIVELY used for business (associated expenses would be multiplied by this percentage), or a simplified option which is $5/sqft with a maximum of 300 sqft.

At any rate, this does nothing for you DTI. The rent that the business pays reduces your business income by the same amount monthly that you're picking up personally.. and that reduced business income then finds its way back onto your tax return. Neither the D nor the I in DTI has changed.

Wait, I take that back.. rental income from your primary residence generally can't be used to qualify for a mortgage, so this method actually makes your DTI worse. You'll show reduced business income, offset with an increased personal income which can not be used to qualify.

I'll need to speak to my CPA about income from primary residence not qualifying as income. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. It makes me wonder how this affects how lenders see AirBnB / STR income.

Is your CPA also a loan officer? Because if he isn't, he probably isn't the best person to ask about how income is calculated for the purpose of qualifying for a mortgage. See the linked section from FannieMae on rental income and scroll to "ineligible Properties".

B3-3.1-08: Rental Income (10/02/2019)

Post: What are your MOST CREATIVE WAYS of getting BANK FINANCING?

Jeff C.Posted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Bakersfield, CA
  • Posts 269
  • Votes 597
Originally posted by @Alvin Uy:

Here's another idea that I have been using as additional income to offset my DTI... while also able to write-off some of my other expenses....

In my primary home, I have a dedicated office space where I run my other businesses. I have been "renting" out the room to my businesses. The rent amount is equivalent to my mortgages. Also, some of my utilities (phone lines, internet , cellphone bills, etc... even my car payments) are also directly paid by my business... and All are a huge biz write-offs. This significantly reduces my DTI... while also, showing a bigger cashflow. Win-win

Pretty sure you can't do it like this. The home office deduction can either be calculated as the percentage of the home that is EXCLUSIVELY used for business (associated expenses would be multiplied by this percentage), or a simplified option which is $5/sqft with a maximum of 300 sqft.

At any rate, this does nothing for you DTI. The rent that the business pays reduces your business income by the same amount monthly that you're picking up personally.. and that reduced business income then finds its way back onto your tax return. Neither the D nor the I in DTI has changed.

Wait, I take that back.. rental income from your primary residence generally can't be used to qualify for a mortgage, so this method actually makes your DTI worse. You'll show reduced business income, offset with an increased personal income which can not be used to qualify.

Post: What's the dumbest thing you've asked your handyman to do?

Jeff C.Posted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Bakersfield, CA
  • Posts 269
  • Votes 597
Originally posted by @Jake Hottenrott:

A few weeks ago there was an Arctic blast coming through our area, lows in the teens expected.  I had a tenant move out and at final walk through they said they would leave the keys on the counter when they left.  This house has separate locks for the side door and front door. When I went over to make sure the heat was on before the chill came through, I realized they had locked the glass storm door in the front of the house so my key wouldn't work there and I went to the side door and realized I had a Hillman/Kwikset key on my ring but that the deadbolt lock was a Schlage.  WE HAD CHANGED THE LOCK AND I FORGOT TO UPDATE MY KEY RING.  In a panic I started trying every loose/unmarked Schlage key I could find.  I had no luck and was locked out!  I called my handyman and got on his schedule for the next morning.  He called me and let me know it was the easiest lock he'd ever picked.  He turned the knob and pushed the door open, deadbolt wasn't locked.  Extra set of keys was on the counter.  

Share your stories below!

Nothing much coming to mind for your specific question, but if you had asked "What's the dumbest thing your handyman/contractor has ever done on one of your properties?" I could fill 10 novels.

Post: Small Deals Mean Wasting Time & Making Small Money

Jeff C.Posted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Bakersfield, CA
  • Posts 269
  • Votes 597
Originally posted by @Trent Chance:

@Jeff Cagle

Jeff you getting a little jealous or what's really going on here?

Did you lose a bet on a shady businessman and project it on to Mike?

I've personally been apart of and witnessed him PROVIDE the capital to help a newer investor do a deal. I've even seen him provide the deal and commission.

Does he raise money also? Of course he does. All his articles tell us that we should be as well.

If he's trying to be sneaky he ain't very sneaky!

GL with your anger.

I'm going to take a wild guess here and say you're relatively green in this business. The opinions on what's going on here seem to fall into two camps: The old seasoned dogs on one side, and the green newbies who are hypnotized by razzle dazzle and incapable of discerning BS on the other. Believe me, my PM's have been swirling since I dropped in on this thread, and some of the best known most well respected members of this board have said things along the lines of "thank god somebody finally said It!". 

As for me, no I haven't been taken by any "shady businessmen". I know them when I see them, and even point them out to others.. right here on BP! While I've neglected to preface every one of my posts with my curriculum vitae (a practice I find to be excessively gauche), believe it or not I've actually managed to do just fine in this business.

Post: How to avoid getting screwed?

Jeff C.Posted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Bakersfield, CA
  • Posts 269
  • Votes 597
Originally posted by @Armaan H.:

@Dan H.


Once I know that Popeyes is definitely interested, I can go back to the seller and say, $600K won't work, how about more like $450K? 

Didn't see any point in negotiating hard if Popeyes isn't ultimately interested. I already know what worst scanerio is and am using that in my financial assumptions. Any discount would be a cherry on top. 

You went into contract at a given price fully not intending to pay that price? I'm trying to come up with a euphemism for sleazy but I'm failing. If I were the seller I'd tell you to take a hike if you tried to renegotiate the deal with me when we were under contract for absolutely no reason other than you wanting a better price. There's a reason that we sign freaking contracts in the first place.

Post: Cringeworthy self promotion on BP

Jeff C.Posted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Bakersfield, CA
  • Posts 269
  • Votes 597
Originally posted by @John Teachout:

I really look squinty eyed at posts that make statements like, "I went from $460,000 in debt to 863 doors in just 5 months!"

That's just numbers I made up but I think some of these posts are fabricated too. I've purchased a number of properties and just can't comprehend how someone could even identify that many potential properties and write offers on them in that period of time, let alone do a fraction of that many closings. So I just assume it's bullcrap. It may all be true but sorry, I can't believe it.

The 2 step BP shortcut to owning 500 units:

1: Become a 1% investor in a 500 unit syndication deal

2: Put "acquired more than 500 units!", or something to that effect in your profile

Easy as pie.

Post: Cringeworthy self promotion on BP

Jeff C.Posted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Bakersfield, CA
  • Posts 269
  • Votes 597
Originally posted by @Ben Leybovich:

Basic logic here, if I may.

If you are still here, then obviously you see more good than bad.

Live is full of ****** compromises. So compromise :)

More basic logic: Those who have actually left over things like this aren't here to voice their opinions.

Post: Cringeworthy self promotion on BP

Jeff C.Posted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Bakersfield, CA
  • Posts 269
  • Votes 597
Originally posted by @Trent Chance:

@Natalie Kolodij I get this and expected this response.

I guess what I'm getting at is I know at least one of the members being alluded too here and they are genuine and their free advice has helped me jumpstart a life that will alter my wife and I's entire future.

And I've continued to get advice even after stating that I will not be investing in others' deals because my money is tied up in my own.

Often times passion for industry, passion for teaching and passion for succeeding aren't exclusive from each other and easily separable. I know cause my mind works in a similar fashion.

I'm a major skeptic and analytical but if something is 25% promotion by nature and 75% inspiring that's pretty typical and something I'm thankful for when it comes from a genuine heart ❤️

What you're missing is that the 75% that's inspiring is often sugar coated BS, and what you think you've come to know from these advertisements disguised as editorials may not be true. Read every word knowing that you're being sold. Also keep in mind that there are lots of things that were chosen to NOT be included, because you are being sold. 

Post: Small Deals Mean Wasting Time & Making Small Money

Jeff C.Posted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Bakersfield, CA
  • Posts 269
  • Votes 597
Originally posted by @Michael Ealy:
Originally posted by @Luke G.:

@Michael Ealy I never said it doesn't exist, I just want a simple explanation why you submitted the paperwork for it?  I'm guessing someone didn't do it for you...

I enjoy following you, but this thread took a pretty odd turn with that.   

I don't know why you think I submitted it myself. I did not. People who know me submitted it and the city approved it. I've done so much for the city of Cincinnati. You can apply for a "proclamation" but they don't give it willy-nilly to just about anyone.

Oh yeah the city is really checking these proclamation applications. Like here, when the mayor issued a proclamation declaring June 17, 2017 "Trey Day" in Cincinnati because a request came through. The problem? Tre was known for having murdered a Cincinnati police officer. Oops.

Mayor Apologizes for Cop Killer proclamation

Others are enjoying their proclamations as well!

You're in the company of other greats.. like "Animatic Con Day" (whatever that is), "World Falun Dafa Day", "Pet adoption weekend", and one of my personal favorites: "African American breastfeeding Celebration and Promotion day". 

Post: Small Deals Mean Wasting Time & Making Small Money

Jeff C.Posted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Bakersfield, CA
  • Posts 269
  • Votes 597
Originally posted by @Grant Cardone:

Everytime i say this someone hates on me.   If people only knew the truth - its all the little deals that go back to the banks during corrections... the big deals just keep on working.   GC

If my business model was predicated on scraping a return off of OPM, I'd be trying to raise and deploy as much of it as possible, with as little work as possible as well. Of course syndicators want to do large deals.