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All Forum Posts by: JD Martin

JD Martin has started 61 posts and replied 9110 times.

Post: Beware of Appraisals: I would not at face value, some of them are a joke.

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Quote from @Russell Brazil:
Quote from @H. Jack Miller:
Quote from @Russell Brazil:

Appraised value is a completely different metric than market value.

I thinks suppose to be very similar or the same 

 Nope. Particularly in urban areas. Values can change dramatically within tiny distances in a city. Appraised value is going to look at comparable based on distance...while the market may value 2 properties, literally across the street from each other differently by hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Investors for decades that do cash out refinances, or BRRRR as we now call them, have known this for decades. Its why we buy on the edge of certain neighborhoods, because we know it will appraise dramatically higher than its market value...thus allowing us to cash out much more money on the property.


 I've been on both ends of this. I've had properties undervalued by $100k because the appraiser was obviously not familiar with my city, and I've had refis where the appraisal came back much higher than what I could realistically sell for at that moment in time. 

On balance, I have found that appraisals I've had done tend to undervalue on purchases and come in right or overvalue on refi's. I haven't really given it much thought as to why that might be but it's held pretty true for me in my area. 

Post: Does Oklahoma really have the highest insurance in the nation?

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I would have to see actual data on a median & value adjusted basis to believe that OK is anywhere near Fl on a dollar for dollar comparison. I just did a quick lookup on Bankrate for 2024 and for 300k of value in OK was almost $1k less than 300k of value in FL (4800 vs 5600). 

The problem with averages is that a large number of high or low value properties can skew the figures either way. FL has a ridiculous number of low-value properties, everything from essentially campers on 55+ lots to MH parks everywhere to run-down shacks in much of the rural areas, all of which is going to drag down the average premium. I'm sure OK has its share of dumps but you really have to drive around FL to truly appreciate how much low-cost housing there is. 

Post: Invest in STR or My Business?

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Quote from @Account Closed:

I’m having such a dilemma. I have had a desire to invest in real estate particularly STR’s for years. I finally got down to analyzing deals, working with a realtor, etc. but I’m having a hard time investing in an STR when I know the returns I get from investing in more product in my business is exponentially more and quicker turnaround. For context, my business does about 10-12 million a year and is only in year 5 so ton of room to grow still. I have about $1M liquid currently but wouldn’t want to invest more than $200k on a property. And I know 200k doesn’t mean much especially when it’s just sitting currently. However, I feel I could try to find other ways to put that money back in my company somehow instead of real estate since it’d take years to see a real return.

I hope I’m making sense and really hoping someone can help me think through this. I love real estate I just don’t see how, outside of simply diversifying, that it’d be worth it. Any thoughts / advice would be helpful

 Without knowing anything about your business, just based on your post I'd put the money in the business. RE ends up being more about parking money sometimes than growing money exponentially. I'm not saying you can't make any money in RE - I certainly did - but if you really want to grow money and have a business doing that well, why would you want to sink $200k into something you don't know a whole lot about. Diversifying just for the sake of diversifying doesn't make a whole lot of sense. It sounds like you know your business, so you should probably do that. 

Post: Tenant's Demanding I Pay for Renovations They Did Without Permission

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You should not have told them you liked what they did not offered to help pay for anything. If that is in writing anywhere, even in text, it's going to present you problems in court. At this point, though, you are going to have to go hardball on them. First thing I would do is have your attorney file a demand letter against them for breach of lease, with a strict deadline for returning the unit to its prior condition or eviction and damage claims will be filed. 

Post: I'm really uncomfortable with how my future will turn out.

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Quote from @Evan T. Ong:

I apologize and I think I have to rephrase: I do understand I have to work for a few years, that I'm fine with. That's one of the lessons in First to a Million  in fact. I'm not trying to dodge all work, I just don't want be attached to a job when I'm older, hence I'm brainstorming ways to find side hustles (not old enough to get a job yet) to build up savings and investment money. I appreciate all criticism in pointing out my lack of knowledge. Thank you.


 What state do you live in that doesn't allow you to work at 15? You might have to get a parent sign off but most places let you work as young as 13 or 14 with parental consent. 

If that's the case, then your next best bet is really concentrate on your studies. A scholarship because of good grades is huge, as school debt can really be a drag on your economic future depending on your profession.

Post: tenant charged with rape of a child under 13

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Quote from @Lynnette E.:

I ALWAYS do a background check.  I do NOT accept violent felonies, domestic violence, etc.  So, now a tenant with SIX children in the home is arrested and charged with 3 counts for rape of a child.  He is in jail with a $750,000 bail amount so he will stay there.  His wife who is in college for a degree that will lead to a great job with great pay when she graduates in June, now has full rent to pay, plus the cost of raising 6 kids by herself.  She already works, but now will have her regular low wage job, schooling full time, and will be getting a part time job added to her schedule.  One child is serious special needs.  

She is checking with community services to see if anything is available to help her.  She wants to stay in the house.  It is rare to find really nice large houses that will take 6 kids.  They are now month to month, but with what happened there is no way I can ask them to leave.

Sometimes landlording is hard!


 Maybe I'm cold blooded but I don't let the tenant's problems become my problems. It shouldn't be rare to find a house since discrimination against kids is illegal. The only thing I want to know is if the rent is paid in full and on time, the house is not being damaged and they're not causing trouble. Anything else is noise for me. 

Just as much as you might feel bad for the wife, how might you feel if it turned out she knew about all of it? That's why I think you have to just keep things business and that's that. 

Post: First month rent

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Quote from @Raghavendra Jakkani:

When a tenant signs a lease after 15th of the month should they pay the rent amount for the remaining days in the month or remaining days in the month + next month? So the total amount that should be paid will be 

rent for remaining days in month + security deposit

OR

rent for remaining days in month + next month + deposit - I don't know when would this situation arise.

Always get two full months minimum - the deposit and one full month of rent. Im a prorate situation you can prorate month #2, or just require 1.5 months plus deposit ( that's what we do). 

Post: Anyone have a lease that includes periodic use of property by landlord ?

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Quote from @Nathan Gesner:
Quote from @Will Sherman:

Kevin lists some great considerations. An addendum is sufficient. Make sure it's detailed enough on responsibilities. 

It all seems a little creepy to me. I wouldn't want the landlord living in my rental with all my belongings, using all my spicy mustard or my V05 Extra Body Shampoo.


 ðŸ¤£ðŸ¤£ðŸ¤£ You should think about switching shampoos! 

As for the original post, I think something like this works best if it is concrete: dates (say the last week of July and December), monetary consideration (I would suggest a separate sublet provision wherein you pay them for use, rather than working out rent credits), insurance and liability requirements, etc. If you ever have to go to court on something like this you will be in the odd position of being both the landlord and the tenant, so I would leave nothing to chance or interpretation.

Personally, I agree with Nathan - I'd have real questions about any potential tenants that were OK with this kind of arrangement. 

Post: Contractor Issue- Need Advice How To Move Forward

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You should always be paying post work, not pre work. Any reputable contractor has material accounts everywhere and doesn't expect to be paid for labor S/he hasn't yet performed. 

File a complaint with the state. What he is doing is actually theft. I'm in East Tennessee and we just had a guy that was doing the same thing, and is now facing state and federal charges and some people have received some restitution.

Post: Seller Mis-Represented Lease Terms - Help Needed

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Just adding to the dog pile, but getting M2M leases on an occupied quad instead of long term lock ins is a huge win. You're looking at this from the wrong angle. Too many landlords think locking in long leases is to their benefit, when the reality is that it's mostly to the tenant's benefit.