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All Forum Posts by: Jared Smith

Jared Smith has started 5 posts and replied 149 times.

Post: new member glad to be here

Jared Smith
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Lakeland, TN
  • Posts 161
  • Votes 82

Welcome @Tyran Block! It is really good that you are trying to find a focus. REI is filled with lots of shiny objects and you will success stories from all these different investing methods and it can be hard to stick to a path. I am in TN, but Memphis area. I wish you the best in your journey and getting started!

Post: New To The Bigger Pockets Form (New Member)

Jared Smith
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Lakeland, TN
  • Posts 161
  • Votes 82

@Myles Berrio welcome to the forums and thanks for sharing your story. I love that you have found passion in REI and have laid down a path to success with your three approaches.

Of the 3 activities you are in, do you prefer one over the others? 

Post: Is Self Managing an OOS LTR reasonable for a new investor

Jared Smith
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Lakeland, TN
  • Posts 161
  • Votes 82

@LaShon Evans hello and great question. I have seen all sides of this equation, self managing my own properties locally, but moved with the Navy 1000 miles away and managed the same rentals from afar, and had friends here in Memphis that had 18 properties and had them all with PMs with varying levels of success, some bad and some great.

Self-managing brings about an additional level of responsibility that most of the time is fine, but that is not what you hire a PM for. You hire a PM to deal with the home when it is inconvenient and a hassle. Today, for example, I had to leave work to run a toilet to my plumber because when he took off the old one, someone had done a hack job on the remodel plumbing and damaged the flange and we actually needed a smaller toilet than was on it (10" instead of a 12"). As I was driving and not doing my daily job, it gave me some time to reflect on how much time I could get back for a seemingly small amount each month. I value my time more than $50/hour and just this week I have spent 3 hours running toilets around which is what my PM fee would have been. 
What else I learned was even if you have friends in the area, or even family, while they say no problem, as we get older we all value our time and it doesn't always feel right asking them to do stuff without compensation or with, but it is always tricky to work that relationship when they don't meet your expectations. 

Transitions are also complicated and the screening and rental process can be burdensome. Sometimes you will have that next person/family lined up and ready to go, but sometimes it takes much longer and you need do renovations or at least some repairs. Every time that happens someone needs to be there unless you have a system in place to manage access from afar. Those systems also need maintenance from time to time. Even though we paid our friend to show our houses we always felt like we were putting her out of it was lots of showings and we're often resentful if it was a one and done. We had an agreement and stuck to it, but there were often some rifts that didn't feel good. 

Are PMs perfect? Nope. Do they have systems in place that will make your life 99% easier? Yes, at least the good ones do. Will it cost more? Yes! But if you are an OOS rental simply for the cash flow, you will likely be disappointed. The real power of single family residential comes with stable, consistent markets that chug along, have good rental base/demand and growth potential. 

There are lots of markets that meet this criteria and you will find PM companies of all sizes in those markets. 

Something to consider maybe using one of these companies to help find a house, refine your process by example of what they are doing, then taking over management for a year and seeing how it goes. Try a resident turnover, if it doesn’t go so well then you can go back to the PM. Make sure you get into a property than can support both options. If you don't feel confident that you can find that on your own, reach out. If you have any additional questions about this I am available for any and all of them! I hope this was helpful.

Post: Introduction- New Investor

Jared Smith
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Lakeland, TN
  • Posts 161
  • Votes 82

@Hiram K. Ortiz Rodríguez welcome to BP! 

What was your first goal? I only ask because straight to MF is a road less traveled. I am sure you will find lots of help down that path here though. 

Post: NEW Hussle and Bustle

Jared Smith
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Lakeland, TN
  • Posts 161
  • Votes 82

Love this mindset. If you move to Memphis I have lots for you to do! Best of luck, you will be crushing it before you know it!

Post: First investment post deployment

Jared Smith
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Lakeland, TN
  • Posts 161
  • Votes 82

@Account Closed thanks for sharing, as a retired Navy veteran I am stoked to see that you Mr deployment savings were supercharged by this project! Way to go!

Post: Sell me on the benefits of Turnkey Properties

Jared Smith
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Lakeland, TN
  • Posts 161
  • Votes 82

@Shiloh Lundahl, as @Keith Jablonowski said you you pretty much have it covered. There are some other things to consider that would not be considered by an investor that is only looking at purchase price and sales price. There is the risk carried by the turnkey company during the renovation and being able to find quality residents for the home and ultimately the investor and at a rental rate that makes sense. If any of these do not pan out, the turnkey company feels the weight of assuming that risk. 

In addition to risk, there is also salary cost the teams leading the renovations, leasing, sales, etc, and if applicable an assignment fee to a wholesaler that you will also not find in any public records. So yes, there is margin, there has to be or it would be more of a "going out of business" model than a "building a business" model. 

In the end a solid turnkey company will still be able to provide a performing asset to their investors. Finding the value in today's market is the challenge that is differentiating these companies. 

Post: My first rental, 11 years later.

Jared Smith
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Lakeland, TN
  • Posts 161
  • Votes 82

@Jon K. I love this and do a similar exercise with our properties. I create a simple spreadsheet and compare my CoC return and Return on Equity (ROE). When the ROE is significantly smaller than my CoC return (based on initial investment) I know it's time to make a move to increase the velocity of the money. Unrealized equity is nice, but doesn't really do much for you except make you feel good when you tell someone how much equity you have. For us, still in a growth mode, we take action and figure out how to redeploy that equity into other real estate through either cash-out refinancing or selling and 1031!

Post: Appreciation or Cash Flow Focus When Starting Out

Jared Smith
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Lakeland, TN
  • Posts 161
  • Votes 82

@Nick Henry this also comes down to how much time you have available and how much effort you are able to put into purchasing a home or building and doing renovations and then finding quality residents to live and take care of your asset. Active investors absolutely have ability for higher returns, but at some point it does impact your primary job earning power. 

If you come to the conclusion that you need to focus on your primary earning job but want to start investing in real estate then maybe a turnkey option would be best. If you have any questions or want to learn more about how we help clients all over the world that are looking to be passive investors then we should set up a call to discuss.

Good luck as you start this exciting journey!

Post: First time 1031 Exchange, need QI

Jared Smith
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Lakeland, TN
  • Posts 161
  • Votes 82

@Mark Lee this is a team that I have used multiple times and like it was mentioned, they don't have to be anywhere near you. Once I was deployed on a submarine in the North Atlantic and they helped my wife with a 1031 exchange on the sale of a home and purchase of 2 other properties. They charge $1250 for properties under $1mm for a 1 to 1 exchange and if you have another property to move your funds into, they charge $550/additional property. I am no way affiliated or benefit from these referrals, just like to pass along good business!    

Best of luck!