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All Forum Posts by: Justin Turner

Justin Turner has started 19 posts and replied 48 times.

Post: Looking for Syndication/Funds

Justin TurnerPosted
  • Investor
  • Texarkana, TX
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 7

Any who would be willing to share trusted Syndication/Funds they have experience with or know of?

-thanks

Post: Success Story : Trucks

Justin TurnerPosted
  • Investor
  • Texarkana, TX
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 7
@Cody Campbell how much was the average house? Would love to here how you managed to buy all that with just 100k

Post: Paralyzed by financing fear!

Justin TurnerPosted
  • Investor
  • Texarkana, TX
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 7
Originally posted by @Kelly Rastatter:

@Justin Turner There are many guidelines that Fannie Mae puts out and those can and do change over time. The thing you need to understand is that banks can add to those guidelines to make it even harder to qualify but they can't take guidelines away UNLESS they are not going through Fannie Mae. This is what investors refer to as "portfolio lenders" and are your smaller, more local banks. They can make their own qualifications within the law. Fannie Mae is not the law, it purchases and guarantees loans via the secondary mortgage market. It makes sense to build relationships with some of these non-Fannie Mae banks early on but you can start wherever it is easiest for you and a Fannie Mae backed bank may be it for you.

Yes, the banks will tell you everything you need to know to work with each of them BUT you need to know what to ask and have an idea of how it works because one bank will not have the same criteria as another.  They will say things like "you need to have..." and that implies it is a requirement for the situation when it really may just be a requirement for that particular bank and that particular situation. Start now with the mindset of "how else can this work, is there another way?" and don't be afraid to ask the banker those questions. It will serve you well as you progress.

Things to consider:

1. Credit Score: We are all assuming you have decent credit. The lending criteria are different for investment properties. You must ask the banks. Internet people can only tell you their experiences. Different banks will have different criteria. DO NOT LET ALL THESE BANKS PULL YOUR CREDIT. It will impact your score and make it harder if not impossible to qualify when you are ready. Go to credit.com (1 score) and creditkarma.com (the other 2 scores) to get an idea of your 3 credit scores.  Banks will likely score you lower than these sites but use these scores when you talk with the banks. Don't let them tell you they can't give you answers without your social security number. If you give it, they pull your credit and it's another hard inquiry on your report.

2. Reserves: You will likely need 6 months of reserves if you aren't occupying the property. This is usually PITI plus HOA (if applicable). Sometimes this can be in cash, retirement accounts, equity, etc. Again, the banks will tell you what you need based on your situation and their criteria. If the parents' old house is in your name, you have a ton more options than we could get into here.

3. Down Payment: If you have 10-20% down, you have options for non-owner-occupied personal or commercial loans. If you only have 3.5-5% down, you will likely need an owner-occupied loan meaning you have to live there and will be looking for 2-4 unit multi-family.

4. Where to Live: The above answers may dictate you need to live in the property. If this is the case, you may be able to find a lender who will count 75% of the units you don't live in as income toward DTI and qualifying even if you don't have landlord experience. Ask about the FHA 203k loans for a multi-family property that needs work to get funding and help with the rehab.

Investment house #1 is the hardest to make the leap on. Don't make it harder for yourself by thinking you have to plan for 10 years later or understand everything about the mortgage industry before you even buy the 1st property. Get your credit scores, find realtors in your area who are on BP, ask the realtors and other investors in your area for bank referrals, go call some banks and ask a lot of questions. YOU are the customer for them. If they lend to you, they make money off you. Start a list of their criteria and contact info and then go get that 1st property that fits at least one bank's criteria!

Thank you so much! This post alone gave me the confidence/reassurance to proceed.

Post: Paralyzed by financing fear!

Justin TurnerPosted
  • Investor
  • Texarkana, TX
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 7
Originally posted by @Michael N.:

Yes you’re missing the rental income.
-1100 for duplex payment, but it rents for a total of $1500. That doesn’t mess up your debt to income.

 I suppose i just thought they wouldn't take the rental income in to consideration. As in if the tenant leaves, im still held accountable to make payments.

Post: Paralyzed by financing fear!

Justin TurnerPosted
  • Investor
  • Texarkana, TX
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 7
Originally posted by @Omar Khan:

@Justin Turner You're thinking way too far ahead. One step at a time! You're doing good. Buy the first house right, make some money on it and then go from there. 

Don't read too much into people's comments here (I own 40 houses or whatever). Most folks are buying cheap houses with lower quality tenants. You'll go further in a shorter period of time, if you focus on buying quality at the right price, patiently building up your portfolio (hardest part!) and leveraging your capital into newer properties.

Keep educating yourself and keep taking it a day at a time.

 Well because i assume that the bank would turn me down if my Debt to income is over 40%

Example: payment on a rental duplex is %1,100/month.

i bring in $3,000/month

1,000Ã3000= 37% DTI

Am i missing something here? I must be.

When i was approved for a house about a year ago they said i was approved to something like $135,000

Post: Paralyzed by financing fear!

Justin TurnerPosted
  • Investor
  • Texarkana, TX
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 7
Originally posted by @Alexander Felice:

ummm what did the banks SAY??? did you call ~5-6 of them and try to find a pathway to success? build a relationship with some lenders?

stop worrying about what you FEEL a bank will do and ASK them, ask a few of them!  then use their help to develop a plan. 

It doesn't sound like you're stuck at all

so you are suggesting just walk into a bank and ask to speak with someone about their lending guidelines or whatever? I've only ever talked to one about buying a house and they were super busy.

Post: Paralyzed by financing fear!

Justin TurnerPosted
  • Investor
  • Texarkana, TX
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 7

thanks guys

Post: Paralyzed by financing fear!

Justin TurnerPosted
  • Investor
  • Texarkana, TX
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 7

@omar khan

Well because i assume that the bank would turn me down if my Debt to income is over 40% 

Example: payment on a rental duplex is %1,100/month.

i bring in $3,000/month

1,000÷3000= 37% DTI

Am i missing something here? I must be.

When i was approved for a house about a year ago they said i was approved to something like $135,000

Post: Paralyzed by financing fear!

Justin TurnerPosted
  • Investor
  • Texarkana, TX
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 7

I am stuck. 

I make $44,000 year salary.

No debt.

No rent. (parents old house) 

$20,000 in savings.

1. Should i look for a portfolio lender first or just go through the conventional route? I just dont want to get to 4-10 properties then get shut down.

I feel like bank would only trust me with MAYBE two houses lol.

Anything would help guys thanks.

Post: Buying multiple rentals making 45k a year?

Justin TurnerPosted
  • Investor
  • Texarkana, TX
  • Posts 53
  • Votes 7
Would a bank really loan me money for let’s say 5-10 rentals while I only make $45,000k (debt free) If so how does it work. Thanks guys for the help.