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All Forum Posts by: Jason L.

Jason L. has started 5 posts and replied 46 times.

Post: Trump Tax Plan - Calling All You Tax Gurus

Jason L.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Chino Hills, CA
  • Posts 47
  • Votes 19

@Nicholas Middleton, unless I'm missing something, I don't see any opportunities per se from this potential update... Just lengthens the occupancy period required to call a home your "principal residence" for capital gains exclusion purposes... 

Post: Trump Tax Plan - Calling All You Tax Gurus

Jason L.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Chino Hills, CA
  • Posts 47
  • Votes 19

@Nicholas Middleton, I started a new thread pointing out something in the current House version of the tax plan that I hadn't seen mentioned yet here on BP. Since that thread didn't gain traction, I'll just copy my post here:


Saw this over at MMM and thought this would be of interest to any live-in flippers expecting to have their capital gains shielded from taxation when they sell...

It seems the House tax plan would redefine "principal residence" as a place one has lived in for 5 of the past 8 years rather than 2 of the past 5:

Obviously, the proposed tax plan is changing moment to moment and the final version -- if it passes -- is what matters. Still, something to keep an eye on.

Post: GOP Tax Plan: "Principal Residence" for Capital Gains Exclusion

Jason L.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Chino Hills, CA
  • Posts 47
  • Votes 19

Saw this over at MMM and thought this would be of interest to any live-in flippers expecting to have their capital gains shielded from taxation when they sell...

It seems the House tax plan would redefine "principal residence" as a place one has lived in for 5 of the past 8 years rather than 2 of the past 5:

Obviously, the proposed tax plan is changing moment to moment and the final version -- if it passes -- is what matters. Still, something to keep an eye on.

Post: 4 months into a refinance -- jump ship?

Jason L.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Chino Hills, CA
  • Posts 47
  • Votes 19

Max, thanks. You are correct, and it would be the biggest reason for riding this out.

At this point, the question boils down to, How much is my sanity worth?

Post: 4 months into a refinance -- jump ship?

Jason L.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Chino Hills, CA
  • Posts 47
  • Votes 19

Thanks all. I'm about to cut my losses and bail.

As I search for a lender moving forward, could anyone suggest specific due diligence I can perform to minimize the chances of getting stuck with a deadbeat lender next time around?

Post: 4 months into a refinance -- jump ship?

Jason L.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Chino Hills, CA
  • Posts 47
  • Votes 19

Short version: I am 4 months into a loan refinance. I've already paid for an appraisal, which has now expired. The team I've been working with (loan consultant, underwriter, and processor) has been dragging their feet and status updates have been difficult to obtain. Their turnaround time promises have rarely been kept. I don't even ask for expected turnaround times anymore. I have no idea how close this loan is to closing, as a second property appraisal is still being scheduled. I am very frustrated at how slow this process has been and how difficult communication has been. The lender seems disorganized/incompetent/overwhelmed/slow, or all of the above. My question: Can I simply halt/terminate the refinance process and look for another lender with which to refinance? Would I be out any additional fees/charges/penalties?

Long version:

I own a SFR in Indianapolis and I live in California. Back in February, I initiated a refinance of the mortgage with my current lender. Initially, communication was brisk and turnaround time was expedient. The particular loan consultant I was assigned is based in Texas. Still, five weeks after initial contact, underwriting had approved the refinance terms and disclosures were sent to me to sign. Five weeks was a tad longer than my previous experiences with refinancing (mortgages for my personal residence), but still within acceptable range as far as I was concerned.


However, the loan amount (75% of appraised value) in the disclosures was not what the loan consultant and I had discussed (80% of appraised value). The loan consultant advised me to wait for a set of updated disclosures that would reflect a loan amount that was 80% of appraised value. A week or two later, he told me that he had been mistaken, that only loan amounts up to 75% of appraised value would be allowed, given that this was an investment property. I was okay with the smaller loan amount. However, according to the loan consultant, the original set of disclosures had already expired and I therefore needed to wait for updated disclosures.

At this point, communication became increasingly difficult and turnaround times on the part of the lender began to drag. The updated set of disclosures arrived 5.5 weeks after the first set. I did not sign them, as I noticed various mistakes that the loan consultant agreed needed to be corrected. He said a corrected set of disclosures would be sent out to me within days. It's now been over two months, and still no update disclosures. In that time, I've needed to resubmit updated pay stubs (which I did within 24 hours of request) and am now in the process of scheduling a second appraisal since the first has since expired. The lender has agreed to foot the cost of this second appraisal and has agreed to hold the agreed upon interest rate at no cost to me. I've also stated my expectation that any double work (underwriting, processing, etc) as a result of the lender dragging out this process should not be paid for by me.

At this point, I'm ready to just stop this refinance. Status updates require multiple inquiries on my part to obtain. Even then, the updates are vague and filled with excuses for the delays experienced. Virtually ever turnaround time given to me has been exceeded by days, sometimes weeks. I'm totally exasperated and want out.

My questions are:

1) A loan refinance should reasonably take this long, should it? (I've been consistently expedient in turnaround requests for documentation -- usually within 24 hours -- and most of these past 4 months have been spent with me waiting on the lender.)

2) If I stop this refinance, would I be legally obligated to pay for any of the work done (underwriting, processing, etc.) other than the first appraisal?

3) How do I terminate the refinance? With just a simple email stating my intentions not to move forward?

Thank you!

I LOL'd when I realized this was an April Fool's prank.

But my laughter quickly turned into uncontrollable wailing as I realized that once again, I'll probably have a better luck finding an A-class property that meets the 4% rule, with appreciation using no money down in Detroit than I will of finding my true love!

Post: Where will Californians Live??

Jason L.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Chino Hills, CA
  • Posts 47
  • Votes 19
Originally posted by @Kelly Sennholz:

...

My questions are: 

What implications do you think this will have on real estate prices, both in CA and rest of country?

What is your estimate of lost economic strength due to high water prices?

Do you think this is a short term problem or a long term problem?

My experience, (and economic research), indicate changes like this and those which will inevitably happen on the coast of Florida, do not happen gradually, but move in a "tendency" until accelerated by an incident. For instance, if a massive hurricane hits Florida and the Feds remove hurricane insurance (which they will ultimately have to do) all of the homes along the coast will become valueless instantly due to inability to insure. Likewise, I think one incident will hit California, bringing the entire water problem to its proper significance.

As a real estate investor, one of our primary tasks is of course to understand and manage risk. It's interesting to note that actuaries, whose job is to set insurance rates such that insurers can remain solvent even in the face of improbable but possible events, are also tasked with understanding and managing risk. 

For what it's worth, among the emerging risks actuaries pay attention to are changing climate patterns which, of course, include drought.

How severe is this risk? Hard to say without digging deep into the data.

But maybe a more important question to ask (from a real estate investing point of view) is this: What's the public perception of the level of risk? The public, after all, will decide where to live, where to open and run businesses, and how much to pay for CA property.

I happen to agree with Kelly's view that change in perceptions doesn't get "accelerated" until there is an "incident"...

Just as the middle-aged man who, after surviving a life-threatening heart attack, finally begins heeding his doctor's advice to eat better and exercise more, Californians won't think twice about changing where they live unless (or until) an "incident" occurs which dramatically impacts their current way of life.

Post: Turnkey purchase process

Jason L.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Chino Hills, CA
  • Posts 47
  • Votes 19

@Jay Hinrichs, I would appreciate it if you would send me a copy of the ebook as well. I always appreciate your impartial insights as they relate to out-of-state, turnkey investments.

Post: San Fernando Valley Meetup

Jason L.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Chino Hills, CA
  • Posts 47
  • Votes 19

@Sebastia H., thanks for organizing; I can't make it this time, but hopefully will be able to make any future meetups.