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All Forum Posts by: Jay Hurst

Jay Hurst has started 7 posts and replied 1514 times.

Post: First deal overthinking all details - Points and Closing Costs

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with two points (assuming good credit etc) I would be low's 5's for a non-owner duplex, but it would be with 25% down. so, it really just depends on if you are ok with the higher rate but lower capital requirement, or looking for the lowest rate.  There is something to be said for both approaches. 

Post: First deal overthinking all details - Points and Closing Costs

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have you clarified with the lender that they will allow for a 10% down on a non-owner occupied duplex? 

Post: Does an investor need to put 20-25% down?

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ANY conventional lender should be able to do this. The link above is directly from Fannie Mae site. Nothing tricky. We do them ALL the time. Closed one yesterday in fact. 

Post: Does an investor need to put 20-25% down?

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Quote from @Chris Stewart:

Are there lenders that will allow me to put less than 25% down on a sfh as an investor?  If so, which?


You can put down 15% on a single family home using a conventional loan. We do it all the time for borrowers.  This allows you save capital for the next deal. 

https://singlefamily.fanniemae...

Post: Does owner finance affect conventional lending options?

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You do not have to be a first time home buyer for either FHA or VA. So, if you current home that you owner finance still has VA financing on it, then you could potentially do a FHA loan but not a VA. And vice versa. But, if you still have financing the existing loan would be considered debt.

Post: New to Texas, barely got 20%

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Quote from @Jose A. burgos:

Hi all,

Finally making the move onto rental properties. Although technically I’ve already sold a property (my home back in MA) I never thought about it as an investment, to me it was just selling a home. Seeing how well that investment turned out for me I know want to get into rental properties. I’m currently reading Brandon’s book on rental properties. And wanted to officially jump in the forum for further education.

and yeah I already have a question haha.

After all debt has been paid to zero, and all safety buckets filled, I have about 20% down for a 100k property left. Should I go forward looking for deals, or stack a bit more to have a padding and the 20%?


Thanks 


 You purchase a non owner occupied single family with 15% down.

Post: Investment rates 20% conventional, please share.

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We have a product that does NOT have the conventional loan level pricing adjustments (LLPA's) that jack up the pricing on a conventional non-owner occupied property with 20% down.  As you can see below the LLPA for a 20% down investment property is 3.375% in addition to any other LLPA your file might have.  These are why it is hard to answer "what is the rate?" because it depends on what your file's LLPA's are.  The 3.375% does NOT mean the rate is 3.375% higher because it is added to an originators back end pricing, but it does mean about 1% higher in todays rates. So, a product without these LLPA tend to be about 1% better right now.

Loan level pricing adjustment matrix

Post: Cash back refinance on paid home for investment property?

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Quote from @Jaron Walling:

@Jay Hurst Which lender is doing 15% down on an investment property loan? My lender only does 25%. I know some do less if it's commercial, LLC owned.


 We do it all the time!  Fannie has always allowed it.  https://singlefamily.fanniemae...

Post: How can this be changed??

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Quote from @Ryan Taylor:

So I was thinking....does PMI/MI seem a bit ridiculous...I'm mean...tacking on an additional 300/350 bucks a month to do nothing but protect a lender of default from the borrower...

Hear me out...your already qualifying for the loan...if your DTI and FICO support you getting debt...then perhaps something other than LTV should negate PMI/MI...maybe set the guidelines at an 800 FICO and no PMI/MI is warranted...dont you think this would "open the door"...pun intended...to price points that would otherwise disqualify a borrower because of payment with the additional PMI/MI included in the payment...

HOW CAN THIS BE CHANGED

Just a thought...what say you??


 Have you looked into lender paid MI?  It is often much cheaper option then paying the MI.

Post: Cash back refinance on paid home for investment property?

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You will get a better rate on your primary home then you will on your investment property, as well as able to go up to 80% loan to value on your primary compared to 75% on the non-owner occupied property  but of course some folks like to keep their primary out of your investment.  You would also want to consider the rate on your current investment property. if you can get close or lower then your current financing that might help decide. 

As for the down payment on the new house you can put down as little as 15% on a single family non-owner occupied property, not the above mentioned 20%.