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All Forum Posts by: Javier D.

Javier D. has started 6 posts and replied 266 times.

Post: Downsides for conservative investing?

Javier D.Posted
  • Investor
  • FL
  • Posts 266
  • Votes 220
Originally posted by @Josiah Sia:
Originally posted by @Javier D.:

@Josiah Sia

Hi Josiah,

I think its a great goal and agree paid off assets is the way to go with this stuff. Why people get into such a huge investment vehicle to make 100 bucks a month drives me crazy. With that said here is my take:

Real Estate is best when leveraged up until a certain point. In the growing stage I would not quite do it so fast as to hinder growth. I started with SFHs in 2011. I was doing alot of flips and construction for banks(REO contractor) so money was good. At this point knowing this wouldnt last forever I started putting down payments with private loans from a good friend of mine. I would either refinance or just pay it off. Granted these homes were 70-100K(now worth 250-300) but ended up with 15 paid off assets. If i had done one by one and doing immediate paydown i would not have gotten to that number so quickly. What I did in the past few years is ive recapitalized on a couple of these, 3 to be exact and leveraged 6 duplexes 75%. I sold one more plus some additional money and got into a 40 unit. My point is dont stick to one thing. You can keep that paydown money as a reserve account and let tenants pay mortgage. Dont hinder growth. You'll get to your number much faster while still being VERY conservative as I am. Itll come to you as you're growing what to do. You'll sell one to pay off others or get into a better property. Opportunities will open up as you get bigger, more income, more net worth. Good luck!

I agree. I was doing the math/calculations and to get to the $10,000 goal @a conservative cash flow (using BP calculators) of $100/unit it would take 100 units... big RIP. My goals aren't so lofty that I want a 1,000 units so I wanted to just find a vehicle/system that would get me there at a reasonable 10 year mark. I think I found it!

But I agree, I definitely shouldn't let "the plan" hinder any growth. 

What do you mean leveraged 3 duplexes 75%?

So you purchased good deals as they came on loans, paid them off, then re-sold some of them to go bigger for a 40 unit in the longer run?  

im sorry my first paragraph should have said I would not pay off so fast as to hinder growth. What im telling you is economies of scale. Yes I put down 25% on those units financing the rest. The first house I paid off was my personal home by the way then my office/warehouse. My personal assets first. I don't pay off cars. You already have the mindset to pay off your assets which I think is better than some of the philosophies of leverage till you die and let me have 20 million in debt to make 100-200k a year. Talk about a high stress 9-5. I don't want to work . im lazy and I like fishing and being able to do whatever I want when I want(with wife's permission). Lets say instead of 10 paid off you shoot for 30 properties with half of them paid off. With these 20 leveraged more you can afford to pay 10% to a property manager. You can use one to donate to your church. Mid life crisis? finance that corvette with 2 of the leveraged ones. An inspector pisses you off trying to force upgrades on something you know is grandfathered but he has the power to do what he wants? I don't care go f yourself and get off my property. call the contractor" hey cap ex time". Now you say you know what I want to calm down a bit and this bank is annoying me with their escrow requirements... pay it off with those other 10 you have leveraged. your tenants are paying for everything. What im saying is yes don't ever be at the mercy of interest rates or a 10% dip in the market or vacancy for 3 months. Be conservative but use economies of scale. Its easier to dial it down than it is to ramp it up. I say shoot for 50 grand a month and see where you land. maybe buy 2 instead of 1 and pay off 1? You'll find your way once its put into application. 

I buy max 80% of ARV. shoot for 70 but this market is retarded. I never ever buy retail. I buy value add. Single families I was buying minimum 3/2 baths in decent neighborhoods. You are ahead of the curve wanting multifamily. took me a few years to learn that one. the bigger multis the only drawback I see is with our philosophies of paying down debt it forces me to keep working. how tf do I pay off a multi million dollar loan? so it forces you to stay in the game like moving up to bigger or flipping 10+ units etc and using that money to pay it off or just let the tenants pay it with the long game since I have other paid off assets. anyways Im teachable and love to learn too so my philosophies can change and hopefully yours can too. .

Post: Downsides for conservative investing?

Javier D.Posted
  • Investor
  • FL
  • Posts 266
  • Votes 220

@Josiah Sia

Hi Josiah,

I think its a great goal and agree paid off assets is the way to go with this stuff. Why people get into such a huge investment vehicle to make 100 bucks a month drives me crazy. With that said here is my take:

Real Estate is best when leveraged up until a certain point. In the growing stage I would not quite do it so fast as to hinder growth. I started with SFHs in 2011. I was doing alot of flips and construction for banks(REO contractor) so money was good. At this point knowing this wouldnt last forever I started putting down payments with private loans from a good friend of mine. I would either refinance or just pay it off. Granted these homes were 70-100K(now worth 250-300) but ended up with 15 paid off assets. If i had done one by one and doing immediate paydown i would not have gotten to that number so quickly. What I did in the past few years is ive recapitalized on a couple of these, 3 to be exact and leveraged 6 duplexes 75%. I sold one more plus some additional money and got into a 40 unit. My point is dont stick to one thing. You can keep that paydown money as a reserve account and let tenants pay mortgage. Dont hinder growth. You'll get to your number much faster while still being VERY conservative as I am. Itll come to you as you're growing what to do. You'll sell one to pay off others or get into a better property. Opportunities will open up as you get bigger, more income, more net worth. Good luck!

@Peter T.

Going rate here is 5% for 30+ units.

A full time employee manager 600-700 a week.

@Matt R.

I have a reserve account in a high yield savings account equal to 6 months gross rents for all my properties. Less than 4-6 months is not enough imo.

Post: Is $50K in 90 Days Worth It?

Javier D.Posted
  • Investor
  • FL
  • Posts 266
  • Votes 220

@David West

90 days will be more like 6 months.

Expenses

6% commission

1-2% closing costs depending on how expenses are done in your state

Holding costs :

6 months taxes

Insurance?

Cleaningx2

Landscaping 3 months

Utilities

About 30k . Probably 25 when its all said and done with the construction depending on what work you’re doing.

Id buy it.

Post: Losing money on condo - sell or rent/hold

Javier D.Posted
  • Investor
  • FL
  • Posts 266
  • Votes 220

@Zack D'Aiello

Get rid of it.

Tell tenant you’re planning on selling. Hopefully they start looking for a new place. Talk to a broker asap and get an analysis done.

Once you’re ready come at the tenant with some viable options. Figure you have 400 bucks x 3 months to play with.

@Greg Dickerson

Do you think doing an LLC purchase I can have them be a second position lienholder? I've done the llc purchase thing before and bank considered it a refi but im not familiar with more than 1 loan on a commercial property. If seller has a concern of being wiped out or something I'd like to be able to answer them honestly.

Post: Protecting your Investor when BRRRRR'ing

Javier D.Posted
  • Investor
  • FL
  • Posts 266
  • Votes 220

@Jay Hinrichs

Thanks for the quick response.

Good afternoon BP,

I have a potential purchase where I offered the owner to buy two of their apartment buildings.

I can secure financing for it but their concern is paying taxes and finding something else to 1031 into. I sort of winged it and pitched them to instead be my bank. Its a 2.7 million purchase.

My plan was to put down 20% as my lender lets me do.

The seller at this point got pretty interested and we are sitting down next week to work out numbers and discuss further. I know they have a loan balance of 1.4 on the property so here is where im stuck. I originally told them we could do 20% down with a 5% fixed 10 years (about 3% over libor) similar to what bank would do for me. I advised them to consult with an attorney and their CPA so they could be better informed and if they have any concerns we could discuss.

So my question is : how do i address their existing mortgage with my offer?

Post: Protecting your Investor when BRRRRR'ing

Javier D.Posted
  • Investor
  • FL
  • Posts 266
  • Votes 220

@Jay Hinrichs

Would a recorded promissory note along with mortgage papers hold up usually? I can see the quitclaim deed issue not being recorded as between purchase and default the title can change hands again , have the investor put his own debt on it etc .