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All Forum Posts by: Jason Chen

Jason Chen has started 11 posts and replied 229 times.

Lets all be honest here. The only way for Quinton's significant other to jump onto the bandwagon is for her to find out that one of the female classmates she despises in class is coincidentally "doing real estate investments to make money". Then she will be motivated to be a successful investor and jump on the cashflowmobile real fast as she is now motivated by revenge, something most women are pretty good at.

Next thing you know, she'll be reading twice as many Robert Kiyosaki books and such as you are. Things would flip flop real fast, and suddenly, Quinton might find himself being the "lazy and unmotivated" one in the relationship. It happened to Barbara Corcoran, and it even happened to me. Nothing will inspire you to desire to be financially successful more than meeting someone you hate because they did you wrong

Originally posted by @Alex D.:

A good tip may be to come home having a bad day and say "this wouldn't have happened if we were financially free". Somewhere between 43-56 times of doing that, it usually kicks in and you're set. 

Another option is understanding that you can't force a fish to climb a tree. It appears as if you're communicating in a way that really only you understand. I'm afraid the more you push it, the more she may be inclined to turn away. I invite you to communicate by demonstrating how your goals are aligned. An example is asking her what is her dream home. She will talk it over then say that you are doing what you feel is the best way to get you both there. You are doing what you know is the best way to accomplish her vision. Explain that although it looks messy right now, the road to get there is the same. 

You have to remember that we aren't taught financial literacy in schools. We aren't taught to invest. We are told to go to school, work for someone else, have a nice home and you're golden. You're breaking the mold and what people are typically growing up believing. I can't tell you how many people laughed when I said I wanted to buy homes. Sometimes approaching it from different angles or in a way she understands gets better results.

 Excellent post except the first paragraph. I believe the first paragraph will end up in doing lots of harm than good.

People dont like breaking the mold. Real estate investing is certainly not taught in schools

Post: Investing In College

Jason ChenPosted
  • Tampa, Fl
  • Posts 240
  • Votes 153
Originally posted by @Carolina Solorzano:

I think everyone here will give you their advice, but this all comes down to your comfort level. Every investor I've ever spoken to has made mistakes along the way, we all do. I personally feel the more education you have in a field the more comfortable you are at taking risks. I learned the biggest lessons from a flip I did a few years ago and it was my "college education" on what not to do. 

Start attending meetup groups, start speaking to others who've already invested in the market you're trying to get into. The great thing about making mistakes at 19/20 years old is that you don't have family responsibilities yet. 

More specifically, are willing to go out of your comfort zone, and if so, are you willing to go as far as "required"?

The most beautiful thing about real estate isnt the fact that its pound for pound the best way to generate wealth, but a lot of the mistakes can be prevented simply by spending time on this message board alone. So that it CAN be a much easier thing to do. So that one CAN grow to absurdly high net worth without that much pain at all. So that you CAN achieve as much as that one dude who had to endure grueling periods of trial and error and pain with 1/10th the pain and effort. If thats not enough to convince someone to do this part-time or full-time, then I dont know what can.

Post: Investing In College

Jason ChenPosted
  • Tampa, Fl
  • Posts 240
  • Votes 153
Originally posted by @Mateusz Prawdzik:

@Jason Chen@Quang Tran I am also 19, about to be 20 and I couldn't take another second of that ******** that they were teaching in College. It was my 3rd semester and I was sitting in calc 3 class (majoring in Engineering) and it was a 4 1/2 hour class and I remember literally getting up during our 10 minute break and telling the teacher that all this stuff that she was teaching was absolutely pointless and that it wouldn't help anyone in the real world. I went home dropped my classes and decided to do something else. At the time I was still working at a 5 star restaurant for 70 hours a week, I was saving every penny I had and investing a lot into the stock market and trading. I made a good chunk of money trading a couple of stocks I got lucky on finding but I also lost a lot. I decided to start wholesaling in September of last year and I wholesaled 3 properties in the course of 2 months. I quickly figured out that wholesaling was also not too fun because you can work a lead for quite sometime and it can lead to nothing. (though I was only doing it for 2 months, it sometimes felt like I was working a lead for years...) So then I started to flip. I had maybe a couple thousand dollars in the bank account, most of it I always park into the Stock market and I never pull out now because I don't want to get capital gains taxed, and I started to look for someone to partner with on my first deal.

This was all about a year ago... Since that time, I have done 5 wholesale deals, and completed 8 flips in collaboration with my partner. I am still 19. I am turning 20 in 3 days.... It was one of the riskiest decisions I made in my life and I had to put my everything on the line, if I didn't perform on my first flip and didn't stand up to my work for the people that vouched for me to the lenders and investors, that would of been the end of my real estate career. But now, everyone that at first didn't trust me, now are coming back to me to do business because of the volume that I am doing. All my guys that work for me (framer, siding, roofer, tile, kitchen, hvac, plumber.. Etc..) they all give me excellent prices on the labor for my jobs. I get better prices than most of the guys that have been doing this for years. 

With that being said, I am very lucky, I can't say I am not because I am that God chose me to be in the position I am in now. I am starting to market my company and advertise and brand my name, to start something new that will be built into a huge corporation one day doing millions in revenue a year. I have a big picture in the my mind, and that is the one thing that a lot of people don't have. They are afraid to take the risk that I took, they don't like to be outside of their comfort zone. Trust me, you will work, I work 18-19 hours a day. I wake up at 6, get to the sites, go to meetings, come home at 5 go to the gym, come back at 630, shower, eat, and by the time I sit down to do emails, marketing, instagram, mailers, BP, it's 2 am and it's time to sleep for a little bit. But that's part of the thing if you are trying to get to the scale that I am at. I mean its 10:15 now and I still have so much to get thru today before I go to sleep. 

Growing a company is no BS, you will work like a dog, but it will be worth at the end. I first hand experienced people screwing me and learned to deal with people like that. If you have ANY questions at all. please reach out to me. I will answer anything that you have to ask, I will let you know how I overcame problems you are facing.. I will lead in the right direction, I will make sure that you don't make the same mistakes I did throughout my process that will hold you back. Please connect with me, I am always hear for anyone. 

This is what I've been trying to say. Your goals and perspective and mine are geared towards highest possible success, whereas most of the people on this site just want to flip a few properties here and there, or get cash flow units to achieve a more financially stable life. Neither one of these choices are "better" or "worse" than the other. The bottom line is that if you want to get WELATHY and RICH while still somewhat YOUNG, you gotta put your safety on the line and tack on a HUGE amount of risk. Staying in college tells me that this person isn't willing to risk 99%-100%. Its one of those things that people consider a "safe bet", but we all know that can't be true since almost everyone thinks that way. And you know what the saying is - if everyone is doing it, there's no more money to he made there.

Just LOL @ competing with millions of other college graduates all looking for the same jobs in 2017, when people are on youtube literally lighting their law and business degrees from HARVARD on fire. College is most definitely a scam and its the most effective one because they brainwash you into thinking youre a loser if you dont go. Most parents themselves were brainwashed too. 

Now how many successful real estate investors look back and say "man, real estate investing was dumb, and if it were a piece of paper, i would light it on fire".  That's right, zero.

List of super successful people who didnt have a college degree

Mark Zuckerberg

Bill Gates

Steve Jobs

Michael Dell

my granddad (no high school)

The richest man in China (no middle school i believe)

this one dude i know who everyone said was dumb, but he has 2 successful stores selling used appliances and just bought his wife a new benz suv at the age of 26. hes got more money than any college grad i personally know.

And millions more

One of the biggest things i've learned in life is that having anti-college beliefs is one of the TOP indicators for financial success, and being pro-college is a TOP indicator for financial mediocrity or worse in the future. Yes, I know there are doctors and graduates like my uncle who successfully do solid real estate deals in his free time acquiring cash flow units and do quite well, but guess what? Hes old. I dont care about being wealthy by the time Im old. I care about being wealthy while Im still relatively young.

Just something to consider Quang

Originally posted by @Victor S.:

I'm in @Jason Chen 's camp. He's giving you a solid advice, albeit not very PC (at all).  If you proceed with your plan, there is a very good chance she will end up resenting you for it and this will only deteriorate your relationship further.  Unless she just has an epiphany one day and "gets it".  You're in a tough spot, and unless you guys can communicate properly, this will most likely not work. You've already mentioned several other things you don't see eye-to-eye on: student loans, superficial (expensive) things she desires in a house, and just general business acumen is a polar opposite. I bet she sees no problem spending hundreds of dollars on hair products a month, tho? (this is a stereotypical assumption meant only as a joke)

"Happy wife, happy life" is not only a cliche, it should no longer work these days. What's with men being so gladly subordinate to women? Ain't it a solid 50/50 these days? C'mon, guys, take your basketballs out of that purse and run some hoops on your own.

 things haven't been 50/50 since the 50s

men are required to bend their backs over for women. you sound like a much much older man and you should be thankful. just to get a date with an average looking female in 2017, you better be at least 6'3, ripped, look like a calvin klein male model, and have a net worth of at least $1 billion. dont even get me started on whatcha need to do to get a moderately attractive one. seems like ordinary men in the younger generation have to bend their backs 180 degrees, climb mount everest, and win an olympic triathalon just for the PRIVILEGE of MAYBE being able to say HELLO to the woman's GRANDMA

Originally posted by @Victor S.:

I'm in @Jason Chen 's camp. He's giving you a solid advice, albeit not very PC (at all).  If you proceed with your plan, there is a very good chance she will end up resenting you for it and this will only deteriorate your relationship further.  Unless she just has an epiphany one day and "gets it".  You're in a tough spot, and unless you guys can communicate properly, this will most likely not work. You've already mentioned several other things you don't see eye-to-eye on: student loans, superficial (expensive) things she desires in a house, and just general business acumen is a polar opposite. I bet she sees no problem spending hundreds of dollars on hair products a month, tho? (this is a stereotypical assumption meant only as a joke)

"Happy wife, happy life" is not only a cliche, it should no longer work these days. What's with men being so gladly subordinate to women? Ain't it a solid 50/50 these days? C'mon, guys, take your basketballs out of that purse and run some hoops on your own.

The problem isn't really the fact that she doesn't get or isn't into it, it's the fact that she feels like she's entitled to things for no other reason it appears than "I am Quinton's girlfriend/fiancee". When Quinton starts to move into his new house, and make even more money in real estate, what will she demand then? A new Lexus? She's barely given him her support at the very least for the betterment of both of their lives. And yeah, I know this thread isn't supposed to be about relationship advice, and he was just looking for how to help make her understand, but I'll hijack the thread a bit for now anyways because there's a thousand or ten thousand Quinton's who are in the same position. Not trying to attack anyone here.

Real estate done right and properly (doesn't have to be perfectly) with common sense is equivalent to shooting fish in a barrel, and if you happen to conveniently be located in a market that is very good, it's equivalent to having a shotgun in your hand. 

Post: Mistake Made or Avoided

Jason ChenPosted
  • Tampa, Fl
  • Posts 240
  • Votes 153

I will try to read further as I am slightly busy right now, but the fact that you were so detailed in this thread leads me to believe that this might be one of those 50/50 kinda deals where youre neither getting a great deal nor a bad one. Its perfectly in between

What do you think you could conservatively sell it for?

This is a good deal I think.

I think you will be pretty successful in real estate. I just know these things.

Post: Strategies to purchase 8 units in Long Beach, CA

Jason ChenPosted
  • Tampa, Fl
  • Posts 240
  • Votes 153
Originally posted by @Tan Mehedi:

Lindsey , my number one rule for REI " cash flow is king" . Even if you follow 50% expense rules , it is still a negative cash flow deal. Worse case scenario you want to break even. I would try to negotiate. Minimum I want to make $150 profit per door per month which is doable here in atlanta.Good luck.

This too. It's a terrible deal. Amazing how some decent 4plexes in some parts of the country can go for $120,000 after rehab and repair, and others go for 10x that amount.

I know nothing about the storage business, but this sounds exciting