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All Forum Posts by: Jarrod Kohl

Jarrod Kohl has started 8 posts and replied 206 times.

The tax deferring option makes sense if you want to sell and not pay on those proceeds. But if you plan on holding it long term since you would have a low interest loan and be cash flowing, I would not let cap gains tax stop you. First of all they would be long term gains if/when you sell and you could also look into doing a 1031 exchange (though there have been talks about killing that program)

Yes you should do long term planning, but maybe just pencil out a few options. If you are cash flowing nicely for 5+ years (including some tax writeoffs for your rental business) its probably worth paying the tax.

Post: Business Partner Wants To Sell

Jarrod KohlPosted
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 209
  • Votes 126

I was just having this disccusion the other day (havent we all been having the same one)

My thought would be to see how lean you can run it. If you can still profit off the property if bookings drop by 20% or 60% then try to prepare for that. I do think we see pull back in travelling and bookings....BUT just like the last recession and just like the first part of 2020 the first things to come back are the little drive to destinations. Sure gas price is high, but if you are driving to GA and not flying to Paris, you are still spending a lot less money. And if you are paying $50 or even $100 a night, I would rather do that than somewhere that needs $300+ a night to work. 

So in my opinion it really depends on your normal tenant profile and if you think you still will have a decent amount of people thinking about taking a long weekend or a nice week off. 

Lastly, what has really held value well is somewhere that people can work from. Nowadays, people are not always just going on vacation. They could be booking your place just to work for a week from somewhere else. (assuming its not an off the grid camp or something)

Quote from @Don Konipol:

Can’t believe all the negative vibes about the seller’s offering.  Anybody is allowed to sell their business for whatever they think it’s worth.  Smartly, this seller has separated his business value from his property value.  Probably so a buyer clearly understands that while they’ll be able to finance 80% of the property value, they’ll have to pay cash or obtain a personal loan for the business value.

Gut feel is that the business is worth nowhere near $100,000.  And if they sell the real estate only then they get 0 for the business, although there is some residual value in keeping the reviews if they have another property(s) that they are marketing through Airbnb or VRBO.  

The thing to do is determine what amount the business continuation, with the furniture is worth to you as buyer, then proceed to offer that amount.  To just pull a number out of the air $25,000 plus furniture at consignment value seems right.


 You say that you cannot believe the negative vibes but also mention its worth nowhere near the asking price. I think that seems to be what most people are in agreement over. He can do a resrtiction if he wants, but it seems he is looking for someone either really bullish about the property's long term rental potential or wants a 'turn key" VRBO and is willing to pay a premium to do so and forfeit profits for 2 years to do so. 

Quote from @Rodney Sums:
Quote from @Jon Martin:

Will be launching in around a month. I've always hated those tiny bars of hotel soap that barely last a day. With a larger group, you could easily blow through several of them which could add up and create stress regarding how many to make available. An STR I just stayed in fave my wife and I 1 bar for 2 nights, and a baggy with 2 tide pods for laundry. While I understand the need to control costs and that some guests can take advantage, I don't want to be that host, so I want to find a middle ground where the guests are happy but costs are in order.

Therefore I’m thinking of putting dispensers for body wash, shampoo and conditioner and having the cleaners top them off consistently or at least when they get down to the halfway mark. That way there is no concern about there ever being enough, no buying 100s of tiny bottles and bars, and not having the extras I leave out disappear.

Has anyone gotten complaints for going this route? I would also probably buy a bulk amount of shower puffs on alibaba for around 40 cents each, that way the body wash lasts far longer and I think the guests will appreciate that. 

Thoughts? 


 I don't do STRs but I found this an interesting question and wonder:

would a landlord alternate between bar and liquid based on the length of stay?  i.e. small bar for short stays, pumps for long stays etc 

or is it preferred to go with one or the other?

I'm willing someone out there calculated how many ounces per guest people use in solid and liquid form to determine which one was more economical for the landlord.


 Honestly the data would be useless. 

I end up providing big containers of all products. Mix of higher end nice stuff and sometimes just the super cheap big ol' bottles (especially for the outside shower) I also have had a few wrapped bars under the sink if people wanted to grab them. (they never do)

But the reason the data is useless is that with such a small sample size (only a few units) it really just depends on the guest. Sometimes it lasts weeks and other times it gets wiped out/broken/lost. But its a small enough cost not to be too concerned.

If I had limited income and did not want to house hack you could do "low key Househacking"

Assuming you have at least a 2 bed apartment or house, rent out a bedroom a few times on Airbnb. Then use those reviews and bookings to do at least 2 weeks, which even in areas with harsh STR rules (Boston) you would be ok to do. This way you would get a nice little fund going AND you would get some experince being a host as well as getting some ratings and reviews on your profile. THEN I would buy a smaller condo or "second home" in a area that allows STRs and run it as well as you can.

Or keep scrounging cash and renting out your own rooms until you can afford the downpayment on a cash flowing property. The good news is that you would have in theory a w2 and would want to use that to your advantage.

Post: Looking for a property manager in Worcester, MA

Jarrod KohlPosted
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 209
  • Votes 126

Hello,

Anyone know any good property managers in the Worcester area? Looking for someone who does small multi-families.

Thanks!

This is interesting! Thanks for pulling it together.

I would be interested to see how it broke down by zipcode. I know when they try to change something in Back Bay or Beacon Hill the pitchforks usually come out.

If someone really does not want to house hack. The other option (similar to what I have done before) is to Buy your "Second Home" first. Living in Boston we ended up buying a place one the Cape early (off foreclosure) and fixing it up. We then Airbnbed it for at least a year and sold. So it was a half flip/half STR rental.

In hindsight I would have tried harder to keep that first flip and just keep adding doors, but the profits from that flip did help us acquire more real estate anyways. 

The lesson is though, maybe worry less about where your primary residence is or, if you don't want to share a duplex/3 decker. Just think about a place you can rent out but not have to live in.

Post: Vacation/Airbnb Home as a Second Step

Jarrod KohlPosted
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 209
  • Votes 126

If you are going Boston to NYC you could also look at places in CT/Western MA or similar. 

Depending on where in Boston you are, we have also had great luck doing Airbnbs on the Cape. While it is certainly Seasonally summer. We still had more than enough revenue to profit in the offseason. 

Post: New to Bigger Pockets!

Jarrod KohlPosted
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 209
  • Votes 126

Sounds interesting I will reach out!