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All Forum Posts by: Jared Sandler

Jared Sandler has started 62 posts and replied 115 times.

Post: Lunch Meetup Possibility - Your thoughts?

Jared SandlerPosted
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If my company hosted a real estate lunch meet up monthly or quarterly, what would entice you to participate? Speakers? Panels? Etc. 

For people new to REI, fixing and flipping a house is one strategy...Your other option is to BRRRR the property.

1) Find a refinance company that will refi with low or no seasoning and low or no documents (asset based).

2) Find a hard money company that will go 75% LTV and 90+% on the purchase and 100% on the repairs (keep your out of pocket low).

3) Find a property within the 75% LTV when looking at ARV.

4) Close on the property.

5) Repair the property quickly.

6) Rent it out.

7) After 5 - 6 months, refi the property (not cash out but regular refi).

8) Watch your cashflow come in.

Money this should cost you on a similar priced place to the one you bought:

ARV: $175k

Purchase: $100k

Repairs: $30k

Loan: $120k (90% of purchase / 100% of repairs)

3 Points: $3,600

Fees: $1,000

Interest: $1,296/mon (assuming 13% APR)

Utilities / Insurance / Tax: $650/mon

All-in Out of Pocket: $20,438 (assuming 3 months of holding before rented)

If you could get a property worth $175k for $20k with out PMI, you are coming out a head. You refi the $120k borrowed and have $55k in equity already in the property. Since this has a slightly higher ARV than your last property, I hope you would be able to get $2,000 in rents.

This is just a quick example of how to use hard money in a BRRRR. If you have any questions, post them here and tag me.

Actually 55% of our notes are BRRRR notes (60% in Houston). Not for flips.

Quick Example:

Purchase: $125k

Repairs: $20k

ARV: $200k

Points: 3

Interest: 13%

Fees: $1,030

Total Cash to Close: $5,380

Monthly Interest only Pmts: $1,585

Total Financing Costs (3 months): $5,380+$1,585+$1,585+$1,585=$10,135

Cashout Refi at 75% of ARV = $150k

$145k (Borrowed Amt) + $10,135 (Points + 3 months Interest) +$2,100 (Est Title Closing Costs) + $2,900 (Est Utilities + Prop Tax) = $160,135 Total Investment - $150k Cashout Refi = $10,135 Total Cash Invested in Property

If you are use the Buy Rehab Rent Refi Repeat method that is promoted on this site you can buy rental properties for just $10,135 for a property worth $200k (or roughly 5% down with no PMI). This is how I bought my two duplexes and my Airbnb.

Post: REI in the St.Louis

Jared SandlerPosted
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Stephan, would love to connect. send me a message. on the lending side and would love to connect!

Post: Pick a city in DFW to buy a rental properties

Jared SandlerPosted
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Things are always changing but we've seen a lot of successful deals in Irving simply because of price point. Market impacts this a ton, obviously. 

ahh got it...i misinterpreted...so typically lenders--be it banks or standalone shops--want 2 sales within the last 90 days to reflect the market (if you knew this already, my apologies) but that isn't necessarily a rule. so they would look at comps within last 45 as long as they are true comps...it gets tricky when you get an appraisal, say, today, and that tells you one thing but then you get ready to sell or refi in 6 months and then the market has really changed.

but for your purposes, appraisers should be good to look at recent comps so long as they are comps...so when you are assessing, obviously you know what is an isn't a comp in a general sense so you should be able to get a good handle on an approximate ARV so long as you are, in fact, looking at eligible comps.

Hey Mick...that's a great question because as you mentioned the comps they use are not necessarily up-to-the-minute. In our experience for our borrowers the best way is to simply look at the comps from the timeline appraisers are required to recognize. But I guess a lot of it depends on the purpose...are you awaiting an appraisal to determine numbers from your lender?

After finding an HML that will lend where your prospect house is (most will only lend in major metro areas or have steeper rates if they do lend outside metro areas), I would ask these questions:

Are you a direct lender?

This will be a gateway question. If the answer is no, that means they are a broker of some type. Typically this means they will take longer to close, may not have all the information of the companies they work with, and most hard money brokers get their money by taking an existing product and adding extra points to pay their fee. Only continue on if the answer is yes. The person you are speaking to should have an email address with the name of the company and work directly for that company. Otherwise you could be getting yourself in to a bad situation.

What is your investor success rate?

This is important to know but can be lied about very easily. Many don’t track this statistic. I don’t know if it is because they don’t really care or just haven’t thought of it. I think it is probably the most important stat. Look for groups who offer referrals to local contractors, Relators, etc. Also, look for groups that have boots on the ground in each market that know the specifics of investing in that area.

How many loans have you closed in this month?

Any good HML will know this number off the top of their head. You want a lender that is busy and closing loan in your area. Who cares if they closed 100 loans in other states, find out what they are doing in the same area you plan to be. If they are closing a lot of loans, they probably have something good to offer. A good number will vary based on the current market and the size of your metro area.

What is your maximum LTV and Initial Funding?

This is normally expressed as a percentage and that percentage is of the ARV. Most companies are between 65% and 75%. The higher the percentage, the better for you. That means they will lend more. Initial funding levels are a back way of putting the down payment required. If a company says they have 85% initial funding, what they really mean is they are going to require you to pay 15% of the purchase price as a down payment on top of the closing costs and LTV requirements. Right now most HMLs are between 85% up to 100% initial funding. Initial funding of 100% means there would be no down payment.

Do you require an appraisal and survey?

Most HMLs will require these. I am wary of the ones that don’t require an appraisal. The lender will perform a desktop appraisal but they will typically have a short view on the value of the property to protect the company’s investment which means you will be coming out of pocket more. Small-time HMLs may not require an appraisal but this could be because they will drive out and view the property themselves. Survey is a toss-up on whether or not it will be required.

Is there a pre-payment penalty?

Some will require you to pay the interest through the term or another length no matter how long you hold the loan. Just make sure that you include this requirement in your costs.

Do you have relationships with refinance lenders?

Make sure that they have a good relationship with companies that will refinance the loan for you if you are using a BRRRR method. You want to see something that has low or no seasoning for a cash out refi or that may require low amount of documents.

What is your draw fee & benchmarks for the repairs portion of the borrowed money?

Know what your fees will be to take out the repair money borrowed. Draws are almost always held back until you reach certain points in the project or that work is completed. They will also charge you to have an inspection by a 3rd party to make sure the work is done. I have seen this range from as low as $100 up to $300.

Do I need to pay anything before sitting at the closing table?

There have been numerous people on BP talking about how they paid application fees but they could never get their loans closed on any deal brought to the company. This is a practice by some less than reputable companies. One I saw charged $500 upfront to be pre-approved and would never actually fund any loans. Just beware. Most reputable HMLs will not charge anything until you are sitting at the closing table and all fees will be listed on the HUD-1 closing document.

And of course, what are the points, interest, and attorney/document/admin fees for the loan?

This will vary based on region but in general 2 – 5 points, 11% - 14% APR (meaning this is the annual rate so divide it by 12 to get the monthly interest amount), and documents fees can be from $600 – $1,900. The document fees are what will vary wildly from company to company. Just know them going in so that you can properly budget. You will also want to find out if payments are interest only or if some principal is built in. Most hard money will be interest only payments on the full approved balance of the loan whether or not if you have pull the draw funds for repairs.

If you have any other questions, post them below so that we can all learn from the answers.

Post: Doing bigger deals (750k+ ARV)

Jared SandlerPosted
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Was curious for those of you who play in the flip space at the more elevated price points what advice you have when pursuing those deals?

Post: New Construction Advice

Jared SandlerPosted
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Hey everyone...have focused mostly on existing assets for flips/rentals but curious about the new construction side. For those of you have taken on new construction projects, what are the things that have worked for you? 

Post: Non QM Conventional Lenders in Bama

Jared SandlerPosted
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Was just wondering if anyone has had good experiences with conventional lenders who have non QM products?