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All Forum Posts by: Jared Smith

Jared Smith has started 67 posts and replied 161 times.

Post: 2020 Arizona Real Estate Updates

Jared Smith
Posted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Scottsdale AZ & Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 168
  • Votes 109

All, 

Arizona real estate continues to appreciate with the median purchase price +330k with mortgage rates sub 3% for 30-yr fixed primary residences. This year the conforming loans jumped from 484,350 to 510,400 and FHA loans are 331,760 here in AZ.

Inventory levels are still low and under 1 month supply for entry level homes under 330k. In East Mesa where I personally invest - properties are in multiple offer situations within 18 hours of being listed on the MLS!

Moratoriums on evictions have been extended until October 31st per Governor Doug Ducey.

1.186 Million Housing starts have been announced on multiple publications which is higher than the initial forecast. 

Although there will always be naysayers for Las Vegas, AZ and FL, I will continue to actively invest in AZ!

Jared

Post: Which real estate investing path? 1, 2 or 3?

Jared Smith
Posted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Scottsdale AZ & Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 168
  • Votes 109
Originally posted by @Jon Kelly:

@Jared Smith - has to be option 1 or 3 and would go with option 3 as long as you are not breaking your financial analysis criteria (e.g. ROI, CoC return, monthly cash flow, etc). I'm not sure what option 2 gets you, other than maybe peace of mind, but what fun is that?

It sounds like you're off to a great start, keep it up!  

Jon, thanks for your input. At this point option 3 would be a viable option as I build lending partnerships. I really focus on finding the right deals so I have been methodical in my approach but would also have to shift FT and move away from my W-2 to make that a reality. I was thinking of paying one off as security/safety net or like you said peace of mind and then continuing to build! I max out all retirement accounts and then invest everything else into real estate the last +8 years! Thank you and good luck!

Post: Which real estate investing path? 1, 2 or 3?

Jared Smith
Posted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Scottsdale AZ & Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 168
  • Votes 109
Originally posted by @Salvatore Lentini:

@Jared Smith - you need to work with lenders that will lend based on the property and not your W2 income.  That's how I was able to grow my portfolio to 127 rentals in 5 years.

Salvatore, good point. Where do you invest and SFH or MFH? And that is very impressive!

Post: Which real estate investing path? 1, 2 or 3?

Jared Smith
Posted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Scottsdale AZ & Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 168
  • Votes 109
Originally posted by @John Morgan:
Originally posted by @Jared Smith:
Originally posted by @John Morgan:
Originally posted by @Jared Smith:
Originally posted by @John Morgan:

@Jared Smith

Option 1

Thanks John -Looks like you are doing very well from Texas! Where are you getting your financing after you reach 10 SFH's?

 I’m stopping at 10 SFRs. Closing on my 10th property next week. Ten was my goal and ten are enough to manage on my own.  

John, Congrats and that is awesome news! Do you work a full time job as well and do you mind if I ask what the cash flow number is? Or what your goal was with 10 properties? I appreciate it as I have a general path and goal/timeline but want to get more granular and specific.

My cash flow now from my 10 SFRs is 4k/month..not counting vacancies or cap ex. They’re all on 15 year loans. My goal is to cash flow 12k/month when they’re paid off. I have a W2 job that I love and have 15 years until retirement. So I’m not depending on any of my rental income. 


I got into real estate 5 years ago and wanted something to diversify my portfolio a bit vs having all my retirement and 401k investments in the stock market  I’m loving real estate so far and actually enjoy self managing my properties. Good luck!

John, thank you very much and if you run into any helpful tips over the years please reach out! I am rethinking my strategy after Covid-19 passes with outsourcing property management if I continue to grow. I am currently at 10 units and working through 1 tenant turn and 1 possible eviction. I love your strategy and have a similar path and thought process - Good luck to you as well!

Post: Which real estate investing path? 1, 2 or 3?

Jared Smith
Posted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Scottsdale AZ & Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 168
  • Votes 109
Originally posted by @Remington Lyman:
Originally posted by @Jared Smith:
Originally posted by @Remington Lyman:
Originally posted by @Stone Jin:
Originally posted by @Jared Smith:

Do you recommend...

1. continuing to grow slowly by acquiring 1-2 properties each year.

2. start paying off properties.

3. go all in buying 1 property per month?

We've been practicing 1 and 2 for the last 10 years and it's pretty amazing when you look back at the wealth that was created with a little luck, a little sweat and a little patience.

Good to see another OHIO and ARIZONA investor. 

 How many doors are you at now?

Remington, I am currently managing 10 units. What about you and what are your REI Goals?

I am at more than 20 doors. I want to learn more about the industry and continue to refine my skills. I am trying to surround myself with experienced people and soak up as much knowledge as possible.

Eventually, I would like to live off of my passive income.

 That is a great plan - Good Luck!

Post: Which real estate investing path? 1, 2 or 3?

Jared Smith
Posted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Scottsdale AZ & Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 168
  • Votes 109
Originally posted by @Mike D'Arrigo:

@Jared Smith personally, I would build the portfolio as quickly as you can. Things go wrong in real estate just like with any investment class. If you have just one or two properties and something goes wrong ie. vacancy, HVAC replacement etc, you'll feel the pinch a lot more than you would if you have other properties in your portfolio offsetting an under performing one.

Mike, that definitely makes sense. I felt the vacancies much more when I had fewer units but now can absorb costs a lot better. I was trucking along nicely until now with a couple Tenants in AZ which I am currently working through. I know this will eventually pass and make me a better REI, but learning through my first possible eviction. I guess I was due after 8 years!

Post: Which real estate investing path? 1, 2 or 3?

Jared Smith
Posted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Scottsdale AZ & Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 168
  • Votes 109
Originally posted by @Remington Lyman:
Originally posted by @Stone Jin:
Originally posted by @Jared Smith:

Do you recommend...

1. continuing to grow slowly by acquiring 1-2 properties each year.

2. start paying off properties.

3. go all in buying 1 property per month?

We've been practicing 1 and 2 for the last 10 years and it's pretty amazing when you look back at the wealth that was created with a little luck, a little sweat and a little patience.

Good to see another OHIO and ARIZONA investor. 

 How many doors are you at now?

Remington, I am currently managing 10 units. What about you and what are your REI Goals?

Post: Which real estate investing path? 1, 2 or 3?

Jared Smith
Posted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Scottsdale AZ & Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 168
  • Votes 109
Originally posted by @John Morgan:
Originally posted by @Jared Smith:
Originally posted by @John Morgan:

@Jared Smith

Option 1

Thanks John -Looks like you are doing very well from Texas! Where are you getting your financing after you reach 10 SFH's?

 I’m stopping at 10 SFRs. Closing on my 10th property next week. Ten was my goal and ten are enough to manage on my own.  

John, Congrats and that is awesome news! Do you work a full time job as well and do you mind if I ask what the cash flow number is? Or what your goal was with 10 properties? I appreciate it as I have a general path and goal/timeline but want to get more granular and specific.

Post: Which real estate investing path? 1, 2 or 3?

Jared Smith
Posted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Scottsdale AZ & Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 168
  • Votes 109
Originally posted by @Stone Jin:
Originally posted by @Jared Smith:

Do you recommend...

1. continuing to grow slowly by acquiring 1-2 properties each year.

2. start paying off properties.

3. go all in buying 1 property per month?

We've been practicing 1 and 2 for the last 10 years and it's pretty amazing when you look back at the wealth that was created with a little luck, a little sweat and a little patience.

Good to see another OHIO and ARIZONA investor. 

Stone - Very small world! Let's definitely connect. I used to work in Toledo and Chandler is about 20 minutes from me in Scottsdale. That is great to hear! What does your rental portfolio look like? I am in the same camp as you but also realize the opportunity cost and the ability to acquire more properties. I am a big believer in buying more and never selling!

Post: Which real estate investing path? 1, 2 or 3?

Jared Smith
Posted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Scottsdale AZ & Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 168
  • Votes 109
Originally posted by @Alan Crookham:

@Jared Smith personally I have been doing the slow acquisitions, number 1. I am a big believer in not over extending and putting myself at unnecessary risk. However, like others here have said, once there is a really solid foundation in place and you have a strong structure, teams, finances, etc..., you could definitely ramp it up.

Alan, spot on thinking at this current point in my REI journey. Working on streamlining my processes now. I am bullish on the AZ Market, but I can navigate Cleveland very well as I grew up there. The entry point is much lower and my team is much stronger there - #LongDistanceLandlording