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All Forum Posts by: Jan Wanot

Jan Wanot has started 4 posts and replied 49 times.

Post: Mobile home as AirBNB in MI

Jan WanotPosted
  • Investor
  • Seattle, WA
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 36

@Emily Almufti nothing in life is free. If something is advertised as free, realize that you will pay with non-financial resources initially, and in this case, you will also have to pony up cash to make your plan happen.

There are tons of homes/pieces of land in the US and world that you could offer to me for free, and I would respectfully decline, as they would provide me no benefit, but in fact I would now have an extra liability and owe additional taxes.

Before considering taking it, build a simple spreadsheet outlining all the expenses associated with moving the home, renovating it, purchasing land with utilities on it already, and then operating it. Also figure out how much you could make monthly on Airbnb with 50% occupancy. If the Revenue is still higher than all your costs, and you're excited about the net income relative to the amount of work, THEN consider the details of your plan. 

This doesn't have to be complex. In fact, you don't even need a spreadsheet, take notes on a napkin.

The important thing in any investment is to ensure it makes financial sense when you buy. 

Cheers!

Post: Seasonal RV Park Opportunity

Jan WanotPosted
  • Investor
  • Seattle, WA
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 36

Overhead may be low, but what are you provisioning for a monthly amortized Capital Expenditure expense line item when considering that the septic tanks will not last forever?

Have you had the septic and well professionally inspected by specialists? A single new residential septic tank can cost $30,000+ and having to buy one without provisioning for it can demolish a year or more of cash flow. I don't know how much a "large bank of septic tanks" would cost to replace, but I would suggest you find out for your own peace of mind!

Those would be the most significant underwriting items for me in this project, with market research to determine whether demand will remain consistent, and how it has trended for the past 20 years as another important item. 

Post: MHP Owner Database Build Guide + What software do you use?

Jan WanotPosted
  • Investor
  • Seattle, WA
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 36

I’ve searched the forums and listened to the MHU Podcast Episodes 88, 89, and 90 on Creating a Million $ MHP Database. Below you’ll find my summary and some questions for those of you who have successfully created a database that has converted leads into acquisitions.

My Summary of the Episodes

88: How to get/convert MHP Leads through Brokers

  1. Do your due diligence on leads in a specific MSA
  2. Search for and screen local brokers, interview them, rank them, and select one (or more)
  3. Provide screened/qualified leads to a broker and ask them to consistently follow up with Sellers to build rapport with owner, and be there when they are ready to sell, or convince them to sell
  4. Provide a due diligence template to your broker that they will use to fill in high level figures and provide to you for further underwriting (lot/rent figures, OPEX, lot characteristics such as water/sewer, etc.)

Tips

  • Clarify to your broker that even if you are not interested in pursuing the purchase after due diligence, you will circulate the deal to try and get it sold so that they get paid.
  • Providing screened leads to a broker who only needs to convert them is a value add proposition to brokers who are limited in time, and will see that you are serious in acquisition. Speaking from a position of power by structuring the conversation as “I am giving something (free/screened leads) to you” is advised.

89: Market Selection

Select market that meet your investment criteria before analyzing individual leads. Learn about the below line items by searching the MSA via bestplaces(dot)net, wikipedia and other online sources.

  • Demographics/statistics (100k person population advised)
  • Landlord/tenant laws
  • Diversity of employers
  • Median household income ($40,000+ advised)
  • Average home prices ($100,000 advised)
  • Net immigration
  • Vacancy rates of comparable parks
  • Ownership profile of other parks in MSA

Tips

  • Your database should be at least 500 owners that you’re mailing consistently in order to achieve success. The bigger the better! Also, the more detail you have per owner, the better, so that you may segment your data and create more detailed marketing pieces.
  • There are about 700 MSA’s in the USA
  • Call the state’s manufactured housing association to get a feel for the state’s landlord tenant laws
  • Wichita, Kansas is overbuilt with MHPs and is highly competitive with large operators

90: Building a MHP Database

  1. Start with a list of the mobile home parks in your target cities/MSA via MHvillage(dot)com Communities >> (don’t click on “showcase communities” as they are ads)
  2. Plot the communities in Google Earth (have a VA do this if possible)
  3. Do a visual scan of the area to identify other nearby parks
  4. Use Parlay 2.0 to overlay and get parcel data for each park
  5. Use secstates(dot)com to get the owner’s name if the park is owned by an entity
  6. Use a US based skip tracer to get owner’s contact info and mail or call them!

Tips

  • MHPs are not easy to find via traditional sources like title companies or list sources you would use for SFRs or MF due to the large variance in zoning designations that MHPs reside in.

My Questions to You!

  1. What software do you use to build your Database?I have a pretty robust Podio setup for my development acquisitions work in Seattle that we’ve used for the past year with solid success. However, I’ve found it to be a bit laggy as we expand the number of leads in it, and I have concerns about speedy work in a system that is starting to lag with just a couple hundred leads (we only input leads which positively respond to our marketing)
  2. What automations have you created for building your database?I’m seeing some nice options to have Google Earth plot my entries from a Google Sheet which sounds like a good starting point. Need to figure out if this can be done in reverse. i.e. Google Earth saved places being pushed to a spreadsheet.
  3. What automations do you have for maintaining/updating data in your database?As owner’s change or die or parks sell, I would like to have my data set updated so that I’m not wasting marketing efforts/dollars on cold leads. Has anyone figured out a way short of custom web crawler scripts to plug into some APIs and clean data systematically?
  4. What marketing methods are working best for you?Email, direct mail letters, direct mail flyers, cold calling, brokers calling on your behalf, something else?

Cheers guys! Hope this was helpful and I look forward to your responses.

If you’re ever curious about getting plugged into the WA or PNW investing scene, I would like to extend an invite to have you join my Facebook group with about 3500 members. All free, and tons of value being shared there, just answer the 3 questions and mention MHU and I’ll personally get you approved into the group. Just send me a PM and I'll get you the link, or you can search for WAREI on facebook. 

Onwards and upwards!
Jan

BIU

Post: Seattle Real Estate Mastermind

Jan WanotPosted
  • Investor
  • Seattle, WA
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 36

@George C.: Tarl does an amazing job indeed!

I also host some solid networking and skill development events with my facebook group for investors:

facebook.com/groups/WAREI

We have a happy hour coming up March 1, and I'm also teaching a 3D modeling class for investors a week after that.

Check us out! 

Post: Best Hard Money Rate/Terms in State of Washington

Jan WanotPosted
  • Investor
  • Seattle, WA
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 36

@Jay Hinrichs would you please PM me or email me their contact?

@Sean Reardon I never ended up working with IronBridge, but I did end up working with Merchants Mortgage and have had a really wonderful experience with them.

I get 10%, 2.25 points, 12 month term (with higher costs after 7 months), and 90% LTC.

Here's the kicker: they advance up to 30% of your rehab funds as cash so you don't have to finance any construction out of pocket. Fantastic. 

No one in Seattle can match those terms for a first time flipper as far as I've seen. 

My contact there is Bob Thomas. Check them out. 

Post: Struggling with my Flip Analysis - please help!

Jan WanotPosted
  • Investor
  • Seattle, WA
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 36

I know this may sound like a silly question, and I think the answer is yes, but this is my first real flip analysis. 

We've done a bunch of hold analysis and I have that honed in, but struggling with this one.

Post: Struggling with my Flip Analysis - please help!

Jan WanotPosted
  • Investor
  • Seattle, WA
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 36

Hey @Doug W.,

Hey Doug, thanks for commenting on my post!

Can you help me understand your comment some more?

______________________________________

It looks like you double counted (double subtracted) your return of principal. You already removed that number when you backed out "Less Acquistion and Rehab Loan" in Cell C22.

Question: Does this mean that when the loan is paid off, we get our downpayment and earnest money back?

Simplified:

$620,000 ARV

-$370,000 purchase

-$TBD closing costs

-$52,700 Selling Expenses

-$89,000 rehab costs

-$24,660 loan cost

- $TBD holding costs (insurance, utilities)

- $5,000 misc

= $78,640 minus whatever those TBD costs are

Your profit will be taxed as ordinary income.

Post: Struggling with my Flip Analysis - please help!

Jan WanotPosted
  • Investor
  • Seattle, WA
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 36

Brian, 

You are spot on. Those are our numbers.

Every flip calculator tells me I'm going to make 70-110k in profit.

To clarify my question, I'm not understanding cash in vs cash out. 

A profit of let's say 70,000 makes me think that if we invest the 86,000 of cash required, we would make 70,000 on top of that, but that's not how my cash in vs cash out is looking.

 Am I double counting something?

Post: Struggling with my Flip Analysis - please help!

Jan WanotPosted
  • Investor
  • Seattle, WA
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 36

Hey there!

My brother and I just picked up our first flip, and all the tools I'm using are telling me it's going to be profitable. However, when I do my own analysis on cash put into the project versus cash we get back at the end, it looks like we're not making anything.

WHAT AM I MISSING!?

Would you be kind enough to take a look at this simple spreadsheet and help me understand what is wrong?

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8rniBLksfG-bHY5amFjMjZKOTQ


Our basic numbers are:


620,000 ARV

370,000 acquisition

89,000 rehab

Seems like there is margin right?! I'm not finding it in my own analysis of cash in vs cash out. 

Sweet thanks for sharing!