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All Forum Posts by: Jan Kutrzeba

Jan Kutrzeba has started 10 posts and replied 97 times.

Post: My deal finder / agent tells me my offers are too low

Jan KutrzebaPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Austin, TX
  • Posts 98
  • Votes 39
@Erik Whiting Thanks, Erik! I hear you. Damn right! Gotta keep looking and/or saving up more dough to buy all cash. Although I’m not a big fan of all cash buys; I’d rather leverage money.

Post: My deal finder / agent tells me my offers are too low

Jan KutrzebaPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Austin, TX
  • Posts 98
  • Votes 39
@Jon Allen Thanks again, Jon. I’m curious whether investors who send very low offers en mass only do it by contacting sellers directly, or is anyone doing it via broker. I totally get your point re: broker’s POV and his/her time and biz.

Post: My deal finder / agent tells me my offers are too low

Jan KutrzebaPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Austin, TX
  • Posts 98
  • Votes 39
@Lindel Turner Thanks, Lindel! I might just get my PA license (I’m license in NY) and try to contact these sellers directly - why the heck not.

Post: My deal finder / agent tells me my offers are too low

Jan KutrzebaPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Austin, TX
  • Posts 98
  • Votes 39
@Bob Okenwa Thanks for responding, Bob. Obviously sellers can ask what they want, but it’s of the advice on BP has been to offer so low you feel ashamed - otherwise it’s too high. Although, maybe this only applies to cash offers? I’m not even submitting crazy low offers; just numbers that at least make some sense cash flow wise (no neg cash flow).

Post: My deal finder / agent tells me my offers are too low

Jan KutrzebaPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Austin, TX
  • Posts 98
  • Votes 39
@Wayne Brooks Thanks for responding, Wayne. Is it possible to buy from desperate sellers with 40% under asking price with conventional financing in your experience?

Post: My deal finder / agent tells me my offers are too low

Jan KutrzebaPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Austin, TX
  • Posts 98
  • Votes 39
@Jon Allen Hi Jon, Thanks for your reply. Neg cash flow. I’m looking to get at least $150/door. With market prices, or even 5% under asking price all of these would have a neg cash flow, unless bought all cash. Isn’t Ken McElroy saying asking price is irrelevant; you as the buyer determine the value of the property? The pro formas on these properties on MLS are totally unreliable and unrealistic. My offers are not even shamefully low, just what makes sense cash flow -wise just to stay afloat.

Post: My deal finder / agent tells me my offers are too low

Jan KutrzebaPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Austin, TX
  • Posts 98
  • Votes 39
@Joe C Thank you Joe! On vacay in DR now so gonna be a little slow, but I’ll try to send you a couple calculations after our day trip today. Basically I’m calculating: Income as per the pro forma Monthly Expenses off of monthly income: - capex + maintenance 10% total (as per broker’s guidance; I originally calculated 10% each) - prop management 10% - taxes - insurance - utilities - sewer, garbage, snow etc - 1 month vacancy (8.33%) - mortgage at 6% interest 30y amortized with 25% down (the terms our bank offered it under a blanket loan) E.g. a $110k duplex with $1400 gross income - $140/month capex & maintenance - $140/month mngmnt - taxes let’s say e.g. $1500/y that’s $125/month (usually higher in my experience) - insurance let’s say e.g. $1k/y that’s $84/month - utilities e.g. $100/month, assuming tenant pays most - sewer, water, garbage, etc. e.g. $100/month - vacancy $117 >>> -$806/monthly gross expenses - $494 mortgage = - $1300 net expenses NOI: ($1400 x 12) - ($806 x 12) = $7128 CAP: $7128 / $110.000 = 6.48% Cash flow: $1400 - $1300 = $100/month, or $50/door/month. 50% rule ($1400 / 2) - $494 = $206/month 2% rule $1400 / $110.000 = 1.4%

Post: My deal finder / agent tells me my offers are too low

Jan KutrzebaPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Austin, TX
  • Posts 98
  • Votes 39
Hello BP family, Virgin multifam buy-and-hold investor here. I’m trying to buy a 2-4 -unit with conventional financing (already pre qualified) in Allentown, PA. My offers are based on healthy cash flow; min. $150/door. I’ve sent offers on six different properties, most of them in the same zip code. Asking prices are in the $110k-$140k range. My deal analysis results show $75k-$80k max would give me a positive cash flow, so I’m offering $70k-$75k to leave some room for negotiation. I’m sending these through my deal finder/broker, who’s also a major broker in the city, and an owner of a late prop mngmnt company I want to use to manage my properties. I’ve had a good rapport with them via email, phone calls, face to face meeting, and they’ve shared a wealth of knowledge about their market with me. All six of my offers have been rejected (which is fine), though I only found out about getting rejected after specifically asking my broker what the news was on my offers (I was expecting her to call/email/text me as soon as offers were rejected). What bothers me is my broker sending me the following email: “In general our market trades within 5% of the asking if priced right. Clearly there are variables to each but I can tell you that you will never find a 40% reduction on price on anything on market. It will never happen. Sometimes we can shoot for 10,15,20% reduction and will get activity and communication going but 40% is going to get rejected every time.” Firstly, buying the properties I’ve bid on at 5% under asking price would leave me with a negative cash flow, which means I’d be belly up in no time. Second, even if what she says is true, I feel like my broker’s job is to “fight for me” to get the price I want, not tell me not to offer low. Should I not work with this broker? Should I find a broker who’s mostly a buyer’s Broker? I’ve researched this market well and it makes sense for me in so many ways that I want to stick with it. Thanks for all the help and advice!

Post: Trading W-2 for Self Management- 0-92 Units in 16 months!

Jan KutrzebaPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Austin, TX
  • Posts 98
  • Votes 39
@Collin Schwartz Beautiful! So encouraging! I’ve now gotten my wife excited about REI and we’re taking action. Financing seems to be the biggest obstacle so far, but we’ll plough through it and find a way.

Post: [Calc Review] Help me analyze this 3-unit MFH

Jan KutrzebaPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Austin, TX
  • Posts 98
  • Votes 39

Thank you @Sam Shueh. Good point.