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All Forum Posts by: Jamie Parker

Jamie Parker has started 36 posts and replied 234 times.

Post: Managing 1.1M portfolio. Doubling it with Section 8!!

Jamie ParkerPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 264
  • Votes 86
Quote from @Jonathan Weinberger:

Hey guys, 

Wanted to drop this deal I just closed. I've been chatting in DM's with so many who want to get started with investing in Detroit. Doing things a bit different now. I've learned my lesson about relying on turnkey acquisition & management. Got to separate them. 

Detroit is a tough market and you need boots on the ground who know what they're doing. I've been working with a few partners on the ground, and we're currently under contract on 9 properties and I'd like to share one of the deals with you here.  You may need to click the images to enlarge them.

Summary of the Year 1 cash flow: 

The details: 


$82k purchase price, 25% down payment, 25% reserve for maintenance, vacancy, and management. And of course factoring in insurance and taxes. This property is a DEAL!!

Here's why I love Real Estate. 

This deal is a year one, cash on cash return of 23.71% 

Let's now factor in 5% rental increases, guaranteed by section 8 as well as 3% appreciation year over year. (That's conservative. I have a few properties that have increased 30% in the last year), and of course the tax savings + the debt paydown from the federal government or tenant.

Overall returns are insane: I'm a buy & hold investor. I'll never sell this, but let's look at the year by year breakdown over the 10 years:  



For $24,000 -- year 1 is a 33% overall return. I can't think of any other asset class where you'll find gains like this. By year 5, I will have a 100% overall return on my initial investment of only $24k!

What's even more exciting, is I'm closing on 9 more just like this! The past year, I've learned market tenants in sub 100k regions are a pain in the ***. I have a few good ones, but with Section 8, rent is guaranteed on the first of the month. I can continue scaling my portfolio with confidence.

Any questions about this deal? Ask away!

If you're thinking about the detroit market, how to get started, and you're looking to buy your first Section 8 deal, send me a dm. Happy to get you started! 

 Though its not the same, but there are pockets in every market that work. Section 8 definitely helps close the gap. Question: in the Detroit Market, what are green lights, yellow lights and no go zones? 

Post: How do I find wholesalers

Jamie ParkerPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 264
  • Votes 86
Quote from @Saab Saab:

How do I find wholesalers to make deals 


 What is the goal you are looking to achieve in that market? Buy and hold, Fix and flip? >250 <150? 

Post: Landlord & Property Manager

Jamie ParkerPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 264
  • Votes 86

I spoke with an investors from out of state. He thought well of Reedy. They have a massive portfolio under management. 

Post: Partnering with a builder vs Hiring a Builder; What do I Do?

Jamie ParkerPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 264
  • Votes 86
Quote from @Mike Wood:

@Jamie Parker  I would start talking to local banks/credit unions that do investment property construction loans once you have identified the project and have some details.  Just asking about vague concepts is likely to get no good responses (banks might think you're just dreaming).  You will need to big picture things like, house area/neighborhood, size, costs, timeframe etc. 

I think most banks will require you hire a GC/Builder prior to closing the loan.  You have not mentioned all your numbers, but if you pay cash for the land, you should be able to use that as part of or all of your required equity in the project.  Unfortunately, building houses is very cash intensive.  

Lastly, I personally think right now is a hard to build houses.  High interest rates make the costs of the construction loans very high (~10% at a bank) and with mortgage rates so high, there is little buyers out there which could lead to long holding times.  I build to rent, and currently find it very hard to make the numbers work right now with new builds in my area.  In addition to the rates, material and labor cost remain very high.


In The buil-to-rent space, is the lending broken up in phases? Acquistion, construction, long term financing?  Or do you have capital or relationship with lenders? After finishing a project, are you renting for 1.5x mortgage, 1%(seems tough to hit 1% on new construction) or…str? 

Post: Partnering with a builder vs Hiring a Builder; What do I Do?

Jamie ParkerPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 264
  • Votes 86
Quote from @Mike Wood:

@Jamie Parker The answer to your question is money.  If you need to borrow money to build the project, how will you get the financing.  With no experience and not crazy strong personal finances to pledge to the bank/lender, its doubtful many banks/lenders will provide the construction loan on a spec build.  Simply too much risk for the bank.   

If you can do the finances, simply hire the builder.  If not, then you will need to find a builder that has access to capital to fund the project.

Personally, I would never partner with a builder, I hire them.  That puts all the risk and all the reward on me.

Currently most banks want 25-30% of the total costs in cash/equity/downpayment.  Most will take the value of the land as part or all of the cash/equity/downpayment.  I don't know of any banks any more that will do a construction loan on investment properties based on completed value (i.e the finished value with the built in equity).

 @Mike Wood Yessir you are correct. response to @Bryant Brislin I have talked to 2 lenders. One of which wants cash reserves of 30k on a 200k loan to get going. Since this particular lender isnt requiring ground up construction experience, based on our conversation,  I will have land purchased, drawings, construction documents for permits, and surveys complete at that time.  I agree to not give away equity on the project because the GC wants to charge a GC Fee of 20% anyway. From my wholesaling days, that comes with the territory. This is looking to be a more complex lending situation due to lack of relationships established, but I have to start somewhere i suppose. When is the best time, in your opinion, to start shopping long term financing on as the project carries on? 

Post: Partnering with a builder vs Hiring a Builder; What do I Do?

Jamie ParkerPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 264
  • Votes 86
Quote from @Bryant Brislin:

In my experience, a hobbyist builder (i.e. you), would want to hire a GC to build their project. If no construction lender can get comfortable with you as the builder (aka principal, sponsor) regardless of you hiring a well-qualified GC, then maybe the solution is to give some piece of the equity to another builder/principal who would oversee the GC, and whom has the track record to satisfy the lender. Not sure if you can easily find someone like that or not, but that's the only solution I can think of. The lender may want that co-GP/experienced builder to be a guarantor on the loan, too, which they may nor may not be comfortable with.

 @Bryant Brislin thanks for the insight. At this point i guess being a hobbyist builder sounds pretty good to me. The 2 lenders: 1 requires Ground Up experience and the other one has not mentioned it, yet after speaking at length about the matter said that about 30k cash reserves would be required to get things going [with the loan]. Now giving some equity in the sub market Im starting in is kinda a venture capital-esque move. Not saying you wont get paid because there are some comps, thought not many, for what I am seeking to do.

In terms of giving away equity; I am not sure if this is too far down the road, but getting long term debt on the property is a consideration as an exit. When should I start shopping long term financing? Once everything is permitted before breaking ground? or is there a check point along the way the would be more suitable? 

Post: Partnering with a builder vs Hiring a Builder; What do I Do?

Jamie ParkerPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 264
  • Votes 86

After couple years of wholesaling deals to developers and investors, I thought I was in a good place as it relates to knowing what to do in the event I decided to take down a deal myself. When I say "myself" I mean hiring out the work. Find a builder, a GC and He would take it from there. Wrong,...kinda. After speaking with lenders, just a hand full, I realize there is a gaping hole in what I am attempting to do here in Memphis. 

If I were to partner with a builder how can this scenario be structured? I have the land and the plans. How do I partner with a builder. Why am I partnering with a builder? After speaking with Lender, their requirement is experience doing Ground Up construction. Obviously, I do not have that experience so what benefit is it to a builder to work them in with the Lender as a partner? 


Reason I am digging into this question is because making it known that my plan was to hire a builder, that scenario wouldnt suffice in the situation. Any thoughts on the matter? 

Post: Section8 in North and South Memphis?

Jamie ParkerPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 264
  • Votes 86
Quote from @Mario Am:

Hey guys!

I am under contract for 3 properties, however there is one thing about it, one of them, its located in South Memphis zip 38109 (Mallory area).

I know I know I live in Memphis, I know that the area is bad, however I am feeling that the market it pushing investors towards the hoods of memphis because it is getting expensive (even Frayser is getting crazy expensive which I find crazy), I did a few visits in that specific neighborhood and I honestly didn't feel it was really really bad as the rest of South Memphis, I am really not worried about tenants paying on time in my rentals because I always focus on Section8.

Was wondering what are peoples insight in regards to investing in those areas with section8 tenants? Would love to hear someone experienced enough with section8 in the bad hoods to give some opinion? 

TIA


 Memphis can be a street by street city. While most of the investors I have spoken with have advised against 38106/26/114. I havent heard the same about 38109. Section8 helps getting the most rent, If you the tenant does not destroy the property. You are in good shape. 

Post: Delayed Financing/cash out refi lenders for Memphis SFR

Jamie ParkerPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 264
  • Votes 86
Quote from @Chris Ross:

Hello, I'm going to be closing on my first SFR investment property soon via an all cash deal. After closing I'd like to do a delayed finance to use the cash for a second property. The property is in Memphis TN. I am open to any lender recommendations from those that have done the same. My thoughts are to wait until the May timeframe since I believe rates will drop a bit by then and I'll still be within the 6 month threshold for a delayed finance transaction. Is there a difference between a delayed finance or a cash out refi? They are ultimately the same thing but I know that many lenders require seasoning. Would I be better off waiting until the 6 month mark or later to do the refi? Is there a difference in rates or process? I don't have my second property picked out yet but will work with a turnkey provider once I have the funds. Any recommendations are appreciated. Thanks

There a some lenders that offer require minimal or no season for the Memphis market.  

Post: Landlord & Property Manager

Jamie ParkerPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Memphis, TN
  • Posts 264
  • Votes 86
Quote from @Stacy McGee:

Hello everyone. I recently purchased a two unit duplex about a month ago and I’m looking to connect with as many people as possible in real estate investing, property management and the making of a landlord. Please don’t be a stranger and kindly follow back! :)


 Hello Stacy,

Congrats on your purchase, Will you use property managers any? What drove you towards purchasing duplexes?