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All Forum Posts by: James Potter

James Potter has started 4 posts and replied 11 times.

Post: Question about utilizing a HELOC to purchase first rental property

James PotterPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 5

After cramming my brain with a lot of up-front RE knowledge, I have an important question for the BP experts. My wife and I own our primary free and clear. So, let's say I open a HELOC on our primary with a ~$250k limit and find a good turnkey SF to purchase for $200k. I pay cash for it. Then, 6 months after acquisition, I do a cash out refi; get ~$160k or 80% out; and then pay off the remainder of the HELOC. Would it be possible/wise for me to quit claim the house over to [my new LLC] prior to the cash out (via commercial lender)? It seems like I could rinse and repeat this process to hold each property in its own LLC, which I like the idea of. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Post: Any ideas on investing in the Big Island, Hawaii?

James PotterPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 5
Quote from @Mark Waite:

@James Potter there are a lot of people on BP who like to share their expert advice, although having never done business in that market. First bit of advice is to connect with someone in that market. They know best what the local regulations are (and they differ across the state). Then start to look st the numbers. Opportunities do exist in spite of this NOT being a buyers market.

@James Potter If you are considering an STR property, you'll have similar rules to Kauai, in that it has to be in a designated area. Most of the areas are areas zoned for resorts.

If you are thinking longer term, yes, you can get more for your money on the big island. 

Thanks so much for your insight, Mark!! I totally agree with you and really appreciate your thoughts!!!

Post: Any ideas on investing in the Big Island, Hawaii?

James PotterPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 5
Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @James Potter:

Hey all! The title pretty much covers it. My wife and I absolutely love Hawaii (although we are from GA (-: ) and think that -- now that Oahu, Maui, and Kauai are essentially maxed out or unaffordable for the vast majority -- people will be flocking to the Big Island in the near and distant future. I just wanted to see if anyone has any perspective or ideas regarding this area. We are newer investors, but I believe we're just under the threshold for a USDA loan in that area, also, which would be even more appealing in the beginning stages -- since we won't be house hacking. I do have a few older acquaintances that I could seek for advice. Of course, a lot of research is required in this area due to widespread permitting issues, lava zones, etc. Any input would be greatly appreciated!

Since the big island keeps expanding you will have plenty of cheap land. Lol

 Absolutely!! Hahah never a bad thing!! ;)

Post: Any ideas on investing in the Big Island, Hawaii?

James PotterPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 5
Quote from @Henry T.:

Land is cheap outside of the two cities. You'll have to catch rain water. Blow a hole in the ground for a cesspool. Soil is about 4 inches thick then you hit rock.  Internet is spotty.  Hopefully you can get your house built before all the  materials get stolen.  Str recently disallowed where my brother lives.  Weather is great. If you get up high enough in elevation you can avoid the 3" sized roaches and termites, so someone told me. Hard to believe though.  I'd like to get back there someday. I wanna see that rock where they cooked Capt. Cook and ate him. Wild place.


 That’s awesome! Haha thanks for the insight and laughs!!

Post: USDA Loan | Multiple Lender Applications

James PotterPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 5

Hi all! My wife and I are looking to relocate our primary residence to a coastal area eligible for USDA loans. We are right on the income threshold and want to be cautious with USDA. We already have one loan application in process. My question is... can I obtain three quotes, per se, for USDA loans simultaneously? I know that you can only have one loan with them, which is my intention. I just don't want to "rattle their cage," but, of course, want to lock in the best rate from the best lender. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Post: Any ideas on investing in the Big Island, Hawaii?

James PotterPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 5

Hey all! The title pretty much covers it. My wife and I absolutely love Hawaii (although we are from GA (-: ) and think that -- now that Oahu, Maui, and Kauai are essentially maxed out or unaffordable for the vast majority -- people will be flocking to the Big Island in the near and distant future. I just wanted to see if anyone has any perspective or ideas regarding this area. We are newer investors, but I believe we're just under the threshold for a USDA loan in that area, also, which would be even more appealing in the beginning stages -- since we won't be house hacking. I do have a few older acquaintances that I could seek for advice. Of course, a lot of research is required in this area due to widespread permitting issues, lava zones, etc. Any input would be greatly appreciated!

Post: First Multifamily Property Financing

James PotterPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 5
Quote from @Lawrence Potts:

House hacking FHA is one route to go. If going FHA, you need to have the intentions of living their for the one year obligation. I highly discourage mortgage fraud. However, life happens and situations change and that is understandable (people getting deployed, passing away, losing jobs or relocating, etc.). So be honest about it. It's not worth the legal ramifications to lie and get caught…

A mentor of mine has a HELOC that he's been utilizing for the last few years to finance BRRRR's and then rinses and repeats to build up a large portfolio. Something to consider!


Thanks Lawrence! I will definitely avoid any potential infringement. FHA is just not in the cards for my first rental, as my situation is probably much different than most. I appreciate the insight!

Post: First Multifamily Property Financing

James PotterPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 5
Quote from @James Zettelmeyer:

Hey James! Congrats on the move towards your first investment! House hacking is a great tool if you are ok with moving every year or so, which means you would want to live lightly (not a lot of furniture, basic necessities so that its easy to move and not a huge ordeal) during that process. But if you plan on staying in your current house, then yes I would also recommend a HELOC if you can find one with a decent rate at your local bank. Gives you the most flexibility with the lowest payment as they are usually interest only payments. If you're flipping houses, then you just pay off the HELOC balance once you've sold the property. If you're holding the property, then once its up and running you can do a cash out refi into a long term loan and then pay the HELOC off. Bear in mind that both DSCR and conventional lending have seasoning guidelines when it comes to cash out refinances. For conventional you can pull cash out within the first 6 months of acquisition, but you can only pull out the amount that you used to purchase the property, nothing more. So if you paid say, $100k for it and put an additional $50k into it after the fact, you would have to wait 6 months before you could pull out funds beyond what was used to purchase. DSCR loans have similar guidelines but they very depending on the lender. So you just have to plan accordingly. Good luck!


Thanks so much, fellow James, for your very helpful advice and insightful details on the process! I cannot thank you enough. I am excited to apply knowledge like this to my future plans and goals!

Post: First Multifamily Property Financing

James PotterPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 5
Quote from @Chris Davidson:

@James Potter congrats on putting yourself in a good position. I would get with an agent and lender and start working on a game plan. There are many ways to build your investments. You could do a FHA and house hack, but it might not be as practical as some other options you might have.

Check out a HELOC on your current primary, or a cash out REFI. Figuring out the financing is important, but you also need to work on your buy box as this will help you determine amount of funding needed.

Thanks for taking the time to respond, Chris! I hope business is thriving for you! I think opening a HELOC is a great idea and have looked into this strategy a bit. I will definitely research this more, as I think it could be the best route to take.

Post: First Multifamily Property Financing

James PotterPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 5
Quote from @Devin Peterson:
Quote from @James Potter:

Hello all! This is my first post on here and I’m stoked to engage with all of you and ultimately provide value to the forum! My wife and I are preparing for our first RE investment property - most likely in Q3-Q4 2023. We have never had a mortgage. We bought our home and 5 acres for $90k cash off an auction in 2018 and have put ~$150k cash into rehabbing it. Given this, although we don’t quite have the capital for a 20% down payment, we do have solid credit and W2 income. I know there are several ways to leverage our free-and-clear house. Any suggestions on potential creative financing; recommended lenders; etc..; would be greatly appreciated!


 HI James!

First off, congrats on all the success thus far and welcome to the game! There are a million ways to get started. From a mortgage perspective - if you have a free and clear property they best way to scale quickly is through house hacking FHA loans. Do this every year until you cant anymore. You will have to refi out of one to acquire the next is most situations but this is a tremendous way to scale one at a time using only 3.5% down payment. Once you have built up your portfolio from this strategy you can cash out and starting purchasing investments using DSCR products. The best thing ever. No income, no employment, just asset based lending. Make sure you have a set a strong foundational frameworks (Models and numbers with important KPIs) that track and anticipate the performance of your investments. Feel free to reach out and connect for any questions. Gl!

Thanks so much, Devin! I just sent you a connection request. Also, one additional thing I was wondering is if you can house hack FHA loan if you live in a property, per se, 6 months and 1 day in the first year? I'd live in my primary house the rest of the time.


Thanks so much, Devin! I just sent you a connection request. Also, one additional thing I was wondering is if you can house hack an FHA loan if you live in a property, per se, 6 months and 1 day in the first year? I'd live in my primary house the rest of the time.