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All Forum Posts by: Jim D.

Jim D. has started 17 posts and replied 409 times.

Post: Duplex in Grand Rapids MI

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What is the existing lease agreement they had with the previous owner? You have to honor whatever that lease says.

Post: BRRRR without rehabbing/refinancing?

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Originally posted by @Jared McCullough:
Originally posted by @Jim D.:
Originally posted by @Kenneth Anderson:

@Jared McCullough thanks

I guess my confusion is how do you pull your equity out by refinancing if you haven’t increased the value of the house through rehab?


You don't. 

James,

Although I am fairly new to this it is my understanding that your Cash Out Refinance Value will be based on a certain LTV based upon the assessed/appraised value of the house.

If this is correct that what your suggesting is false. Buying a house that needs "significant" rehab is not the only method for buying a house well under market value which is basically what the model is suggesting is that your "all in" is low enough that you can pull money back out through financing at a comparable market value.

Example:

I buy a house at foreclosure for $50,000 cash that needs ZERO WORK. The house would appraise for $100,000 based on comps/market. I find a lender willing to do 75% LTV. They send for an appraisal it comes back at $100,000. They approve a loan at $75,000. I pay myself back my $50,000 cash. I have just netted $25,000 operational cash without doing any Rehab. I am a little confused at why your implying that Rehab is required unless I am naive to something (i.e. which is quite possibly true as I stated originally I am new to this).

 
Yes, that scenario would work as you described.

Only problem is that your odds of buying a property at 50% of current value that needs no work, while bidding against other investors, are about the same as me scoring a date with Jodie Foster this Friday night.

Post: Would you purchase a house that haunted?

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Ghosts are not real.

Post: BRRRR without rehabbing/refinancing?

Jim D.Posted
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Originally posted by @Kenneth Anderson:

@Jared McCullough thanks

I guess my confusion is how do you pull your equity out by refinancing if you haven’t increased the value of the house through rehab?


You don't. 

Post: HELOC vs Cash out refinance

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If you do a cash-out refinance and pull that equity out, then you'll be paying interest on it all the time because you've permanently pulled it out (until the loan is fully paid off).

If you do a HELOC, you'll only be paying interest on it while you're using it.

Post: BRRR - Really a viable investment?

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In my experience, it is quite rare to actually get all your money back out of a BRRR once you account for interest, holding costs, loan closing costs, etc. But having $15k into a $150k purchase is still fairly attractive compared to the usual 25% down you would have to put in. Here are a few additional notes you can factor in:

1. LTV on a cash out refi is typically 75% for single family and 70% for 2-4 units
2. I cash out at 6 months, not 12, so that saves me a good amount of interest
3. If I am able to finish the rehab and get it rented, I would also factor in that rent received. If I can finish rehab in 3 months and get it rented for $1,200/month, then that's $3,600 of income that helps offset all the holding expenses. This is one reason speed is critical and it's not worth it to do your own work and move slowly.
4. Most private money lenders will be more affordable than hard money, if you're able to find one.


No doubt, it is a more labor intensive way to grow a portfolio, but that's the tradeoff if you don't have a lot of capital available.

Post: Small multifamily that needs work but has existing tenants

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You're legally bound to honor the existing lease when you buy a property. You'll need to either wait for the lease to end, or agree with the renters to end the lease early.

When introducing yourself to the renters in this situation, you can let them know that if they are looking to move, they are welcome to end the lease early at any time if they give you 30 days notice. Frame it as a favor to them and sometimes they'll take you up on it and move early if it's convenient for them.

Post: Cash-out refi of rental property

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That's about the spread I get on mine regardless of the lender.

It's one more reason house hacking is a really profitable investing strategy.

Post: I have 1,500 and a credit score of 568

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I wouldn't buy a rental property without first improving your income. If you're not able to handle a major repair or vacancy when it comes up, you could end up worse off than before.

I think your first move has to be to get that income up higher! There's no way you can support 5 kids on $13/hour and have money left over to invest. Look into the skilled trades. I don't know a single plumber or electrician who makes less than $35-40/hour at the minimum. Once you have more income, you'll be able to address your credit score, build up some savings, and then you would be ready to buy a rental. 

Keep on listening and posting!

Post: What factors contribute most to the ARV when doing a BRRRR?

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In my experience, retail buyers AND appraisers overvalue nice kitchen and bathrooms, and undervalue less visible items like plumbing, electrical, age of roof, windows, etc. I have spent a lot of money upgrading old plumbing, but know that no appraiser takes in into consideration when they do their 10 minutes walk through the property. 

You'll find the best spread on properties that already have good bones and layouts, but are really ugly or dated cosmetically.