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All Forum Posts by: Jacob Lapp

Jacob Lapp has started 16 posts and replied 118 times.

Post: 2 1 Rate buydown

Jacob LappPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Souderton, PA
  • Posts 124
  • Votes 106

@Christopher J Woodland

It’s a pointless tactic that mortgage brokers are using to make uneducated buyers feel good about getting a “good rate”.

There is zero tactical benefit of this unless you think the dollar will be losing value within those 2 years.

If you compare it to no seller assist or seller concessions obviously it’s better. But you’re asking the seller for a price reduction on their end to go towards your rate for the next 2 years. If you look at the costs vs savings if the seller pays 5k toward the 2/1 Buydown in those 2 years you’ll save exactly 5k or less. So you are giving the mortgage company a 5k loan with negative interest for 2 years.

The alternative is getting the seller assist/ seller concessions toward your closing costs. 5k today is more valuable than 5k 2 years from now.

The much better alternative is get a seller assist

Post: 17 years old, I have about 28,000 cash on hand, What do I do?

Jacob LappPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Souderton, PA
  • Posts 124
  • Votes 106

@Nicholas Stevenson

Awesome work man!

I was in a similar position at 20. Working in the pipeline industry but got my real estate license on the side to save on commissions and side cash helping friends buy. I was hyper focused on 4-units. I ended up getting a great triplex instead first time home buyer conventional loan 5% down. Then a duplex owner occupied 15% conventional Then another duplex 15% conventional then another triplex 10% down FHA 203k (massive rehab).

House hacking each one each year. And have a 10 unit portfolio now once this rehabs complete total Cashflow will be around $7500 monthly from 220k invested over the last 3 years. Portfolio currently worth about 1.6M and 1.1M of good debt.

All while working a W-2 job using my RE license a few times a year.

This isn’t to brag just some hope and to let you know that it doesn’t matter if it’s a duplex or quad.

I'd save your FHA loan for a larger property a lot of people use it on the first one so they can afford it but then wish they had it later.

I never refinanced. The BRRR method works great if you have the cash to do the full rehab to get the equity you want unless you really get a great deal. Private money or hard money at this point in your investing career should be off the table. You want to build a credibility binder. Have a couple good househacks under your belt and get the basics down before you start risking other people's money. (I might just be projecting my own insecurities on you) I haven't used anyone else's money or partnered yet and am almost at the point where I'd consider it.

Time is your most valuable asset now. Focus on grinding and making money. Learning and developing relationships. Get your license and buy your first multi family ASAP! Keep us posted!

Post: House Hacking Meetup Telford PA

Jacob LappPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Souderton, PA
  • Posts 124
  • Votes 106

Hosting a meetup tonight in Telford PA at my current househack. This is my 4th multi family house hack. Couldn’t figure out how to create an event on here but if your in the area and want to meet some local guys doing it tonight will be a good time.

Pizza and drinks and can walk through 2 units getting rehabbed. Show where we are currently living and break down the numbers and process this is our first 203k loan and we learned a lot in the process wanted to share and network!

Key words: Meet up House Hack Montgomery and Bucks County, Souderton, Telford, Harleysville, Quakertown, Sellersville, Perkasie

Post: FHA 203K Adventure Experience

Jacob LappPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Souderton, PA
  • Posts 124
  • Votes 106

The idea of an FHA 203k sounds like the best tool to use for a new investor. I've heard about it for years and with the market it's a hard sale especially since most agents don't fully understand the process.

I’ve done 3 multi family househacks prior to this one. All with conventional owner occupied loans we just got the opportunity for our 4th.

All the previous houses needed work but nothing to this extent.

The new property consists of 2 structures one large duplex/ twin house that is 90% gutted. The exterior work has been done. New roof, siding, decks etc and some windows. Both units are 3 floor 3 bed 1 bath units and will rent for between 1900-2100 a month.

The other structure is a 1200 sq ft garage/storage space with a 2bed 1 bath remodeled apartment on the second floor. Currently rented for $1475.

The storage space by itself should rent for about $500-$700 a month.

Expected fully producing gross rents $5775-$6375.

List price for the property was $400k our offer was accepted at $335k.

I had 4 different contractors come out. I did my own numbers for an expected rehab cost. I was at 160k for all the work needed.

Contractor 1 came in at 100k No way

Contractor 2 140k project would take longer because he wanted to do most of it himself

Contractor 3 170k this is who we went with had a great portfolio of similar projects and I know him personally

Contractor 4 200k too high

So now we have 335k purchase plus 170k rehab plus a HUD required 10% reserve so add 17k total value at 522k.

After 3.5% down total loan is for $503,730

I locked my rate in over a month ago and with 2 points was able to buy it down to 4.5%.

I needed 2 separate insurance policies for both structures. One needed a builders premium plan which was more expensive than a normal policy.

My monthly payment PITI was expected to be at $3730.

Me and my wife are planning on living in the 2 bed unit. On the low end of rents with us living there we will be bringing in $4300 a month. So we will be getting paid some to live here.

Side note now that we are renting our old unit with this property our Cashflow will be just under $6k a month for the 10 units we have. This is our comfortable financial independence

number that was our goal when we started 3 years ago!! Not planning on quitting the W2’s yet but the choice is now real and safe! I am 25 and she is 23 years old. You can do it too!!

The next step was having a HUD consultant walk the property with the contractors bid and made sure it checked all the boxes for FHA requirements which we had a few small additions that didn't alter the rehab price.

Now all we needed was the appraisal. There are very few comps and I knew this would be a tough one. The first appraiser accepted the challenge came out the following week and the appraisal was due back the next week.

3 weeks later we got it. It was low but still hit the number we needed. FHA 203k will loan the full amount up to 90% of the ARV. So the loan was for 503k and the ARV couldve been at 450k and we could still get the loan done. The ARV came back at 510k. I was hoping for 625k to get the 20% in equity to refinance to a conventional loan (based on our area the 1% rule is a great deal so if gross income was at 6375 and I listed it for $637k it would sell) but at this point waiting so long I was glad that it covered the loan.

What I was not expecting and didn't know about was FHA's self sufficiency test for loans on 3-4 unit multifamily. Meaning appraisers fair market rent opinion for all units multiplied by .75 can not be more than the PITI for the property. I think it's a good rule! If the market rents were correct…

The appraiser valued the 2/1 unit at $1475 because that’s what it rents for.

And the 3/1s at 1400…

And nothing for the storage unit…

Meaning the most my PITI could be is 3206..

This appraisal came in on Wednesday and settlement was supposed to be tomorrow (Friday). So now we had a dilemma.

I knew that I could get a signed lease for at least $1850 ahead of schedule for one of the 3/1 units (because one of my tenants expressed extreme interest in renting this place when we were done) and thought if I could provide that the underwriter might consider that as fair market rent for both units. They shot that down.

So I gathered a list of comps from the MLS and from rentometer and a list of everything available in the area on apartments.com, Zillow and Facebook marketplace. Sent that to my lender who just submitted to the AMC hopefully the appraiser will reconsider🤞

The other option is putting more down. Which fortunately we are able to do but wasn’t the initial plan.

Either way we are settling next week on what I think is a pretty good deal and hopefully my experience with this helps someone else thinking about it!

Post: How to Make an Offer On a SFH Without An Agent

Jacob LappPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Souderton, PA
  • Posts 124
  • Votes 106

@Julie Bellville

Get your RE license. Even if you only do one deal a year it is worth the cost!

Post: Intro and a plea for help

Jacob LappPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Souderton, PA
  • Posts 124
  • Votes 106

@Scott Seydor

Congrats! Where at?

Post: Intro and a plea for help

Jacob LappPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Souderton, PA
  • Posts 124
  • Votes 106

@Scott Seydor

Welcome! I share the market with you and it’s definitely getting harder to find deals. This last month I’ve gotten 2 buddies 2 good deals and waiting on a response for a 3rd!

My buddy Nate has been running a monthly investor meetup in Quakertown. Have met lots of great people doing the same stuff and has been great for networking. Definitely feel free to reach out!

Post: Lot of showing request for rental Ppty.Need help.

Jacob LappPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Souderton, PA
  • Posts 124
  • Votes 106

@Jeyo Punnakotti

In my market I get a lot of requests every time I post something.

My response to everyone is a very detailed. Spells out all of the rules, expectations, requirements etc. That message will bring the number of 200 people who reached out to about 30. Then I set certain dates and times that I will be there. I don’t cater to everyone else’s schedule. This brings it down to about 8-12 people who actually show up. Then I have a rental application there and charge a fee. This brings the number of actual applicants down to maybe 6-8. Much more manageable and brings a way better pool of tenants.

Post: [MN] How to Get Hourly Realtor?

Jacob LappPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Souderton, PA
  • Posts 124
  • Votes 106

@Jon D.

Sounds like you should just get your license.

Post: Using secondary home mortgage for a rental property

Jacob LappPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Souderton, PA
  • Posts 124
  • Votes 106

@Wesley Quoc

Short term rental, it is a great tool.

Long term rental, it is mortgage fraud.