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All Forum Posts by: Jacob Lapp

Jacob Lapp has started 16 posts and replied 118 times.

Post: Bitcoin-Rich, Income-Poor — Mortgage Still Possible?

Jacob LappPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Souderton, PA
  • Posts 124
  • Votes 106

@Ken Sanders

Definitely not a CPA so this might be dumb advice.

But a question that might be worth asking a CPA is could you buy a house with cash in an LLC or trust. You are the primary owner of that "business" aka the house. And the rent is now considered income for your small business?

I believe most lenders will only consider the income from your own business or rentals after 2 consistent years. Part with the cash for 2 years and then refinance once you meet the lenders criteria?

OR

Partner with one of the many people who are low on cash but can qualify for the mortgage?

Just my 2 cents. Good luck!

Post: House Hacking a Duplex

Jacob LappPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Souderton, PA
  • Posts 124
  • Votes 106

@Tomasz Jurga

I second talking to a CPA.

There's a lot of great benefits to buying a small multi-family as a primary residence and house hacking. If you want to buy it in an LLC you will lose most of those benefits.

I'm no expert but the Pro's of owning properties in an LLC do not compare to the pro's of buying as a personal residence.

I’ve done 3 househacks so far and collect via Venmo linked to my personal bank account. I just keep good records for my CPA.

(I have an elderly tenant as well. Help them with the app and getting set up as long as they have a smart phone and for me it hasn’t been so bad)

Post: Quakertown Investor Meetup

Jacob LappPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Souderton, PA
  • Posts 124
  • Votes 106

@Nate Boykin

Cool I’m bringing a crew

Post: Quakertown Investor Meetup

Jacob LappPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Souderton, PA
  • Posts 124
  • Votes 106

@Nate Boykin

Did I miss it?

Post: What do you wish you'd known about money?

Jacob LappPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Souderton, PA
  • Posts 124
  • Votes 106

@Kaylee Walterbach

Leverage your time, energy and resources early on. Become financially literate. Once you realize how money works, it makes it hard to spend money on liabilities.

Start your side hustle and don’t say no to opportunities. Save as much money as possible and buy as many assets as you can.

Jake Lapp 24 years old 3 househacks 7 units

Post: Under Contract for 3rd Househack!

Jacob LappPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Souderton, PA
  • Posts 124
  • Votes 106

@Luke Trovinger

Thanks man!

Post: Under Contract for 3rd Househack!

Jacob LappPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Souderton, PA
  • Posts 124
  • Votes 106

What’s up everyone!

I haven’t been on the forum in a while and wanted to share my most recent deal we just got.

A lot of experienced investors have been hesitant to buy in this hot market. And for someone looking to just start out this is a tough time to do so. I see a lot of buying at the peak of the market with fear of missing out or hopes of continued appreciation or raise in rents.

I want to share this story to hopefully give some hope and some things I did that got me a great deal in this market.

The listing... I feel that the listing agent did a great disservice to the sellers in this case but I was able to capitalize on it. The property was listed with one picture of the front of the house that looked like it was taken on a flip phone. The property was listed as a duplex with 2 2bed one baths. In my market the rent is in high demand and could fill these apartments for 1200-1300 a month in less than a week.

May 2 the property was listed for 260k, 2 weeks later was dropped to 235k, 1 week later dropped to 220k. At this point my interest is peaked. I call the listing agent and find out that it has 2 brand new gas heaters, relatively new roof, updated electrical and plumbing. (Built in 1920 so these upgrades are huge). Also has a decent sized garage that would rent for $150 a month. The property is currently occupied and tenants are paying way below market. $800 a month each.

We go see the place (no lock boxes) and had to find a time that fit both tenants schedules. The bottom unit is in reality a huge 1 bed apartment. This is where we will live and to my surprise the place was in excellent condition. Beautifully finished wood trim, crown molding etc. Floor and walls all in good shape. When we move out we could easily rent for $1100.

The second floor unit is in the same good condition very well laid out. Lots of room. Then I see the door for the 3rd floor and expect an unfinished attic. SURPRISE 2 more big finished bedrooms and a 3rd unfinished room/ attic that will make a perfect 2nd bathroom. With this additional bathroom the rent will be anywhere from 1900-2100 a month.

Total income from both apartments and garage will total between $3150 and $3350. After our year of residency.

Slight work is needed but nothing crazy. I’m assuming 10k for everything including the new bathroom (Doing myself).

After seeing it I call the agent. I know 220k is a great price but wanted to see how motivated the sellers were and asked if they were flexible. She tells me that they are looking to make this deal a part of their 1031 and would need to settle by July 9th (4 weeks away) and that if we could make that work they would be flexible...

I offered 200k with a 6% seller assist. And they countered 208k with a 4.5 seller assist and I accepted!

So for financing I am putting 15% down with a conventional owner occupied loan. With closing costs almost eliminated by the seller assist it will be sub 35k cash to close.

Plus 10k for rehab.

PITI sitting right around 1170 a month. Tenants pay gas, electric and trash. I am responsible for water and sewer. Estimating high at roughly $100 a month.

I consider my reserves when buying as part of cash to close and this includes all big ticket items if everything went bad in the same day. Both heaters and roof roughly 15k and then pull and replenish reserves from cashflow as needed.

Down payment 35k

Rehab 10k

Reserves 15k

Total cash 60k

Income met in the middle 3250 a month

Expenses PITI and utilities 1270 a month

Even though I am managing myself I want to factor in property management in the future

10% of 3250 = 325

Total expenses $1595

Cashflow 3250-1595= 1655

Coc 1655x12 = 19,860/60,000=33.1%

If I did the usual COC calculation and factor 25% of net income for maintenance, cap ex vacancy and property management. And didn't include reserves of 15k in cash side the equation would be

3250x.25= 812.5 + 100 + 1170 = 2082.5 expenses

3250-2082.5= 1167.5 cash flow

X12= 14,010/ 45000= 31.1% COC

So pretty similar!

Key take aways

Find the motivated seller! All 3 of my deals have been from the MLS and have gotten significant discounts on all of them because of listing agents who don't understand multi-family or are just lazy. Do your own due diligence and work the numbers to your favor.

This deal is going to put our “passive income” or cashflow close to $3000 a month while living in the one unit for free. Which by far exceeds my average monthly expenses! All off of 3 years and 3 owner occupied multi-family house hacks!

I hope this gives hope to someone and if anyone has questions feel free to reach out!

Post: Tips I have found useful and wish I knew when I started

Jacob LappPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Souderton, PA
  • Posts 124
  • Votes 106

Hey Everyone!

Big News and hopefully some helpful tips for anyone that’s new!

I just hit “financial independence” with my two rental properties, 5 units total (living in one) at 24 years old. My monthly income just peaked $5000 and my expenses with my properties principle, interest, taxes, insurance, utilities, vacancy, cap ex is at $3,200. Leaving my monthly cashflow at $1800 and living somewhere for free.

I broke down my expenses for the last 3 months and they are right around $1700 on average. That being said, if I were to quit my W2 job I would be able to survive!... This is a big step for me and I am happy to share this with everyone here. I house hacked my first triplex in 2019 and am house hacking a duplex now. This stuff works!

This is not a “I made it” post. There is still a ton of work that I need to do to achieve my real estate and passive income goals. Looking to close on a Quad (house hack)in the next few months.

My goal here is to create a post for anyone who is brand new. To give some hope and some tips that I think can be useful for just starting out!

I tried to do this in order from thinking about real estate, to analyzing real estate, to financing real estate, to fixing up real estate and finally being a good landlord.

- Bigger Pockets is an incredible resource with tons of great information. For someone that’s new (maybe too much). There are so many avenues and different ways to make money in this space that it can be overwhelming. It is good to know these different avenues, but you will constantly question your decision and once you find something that seems good... You will see something that looks better.

What does your market need? Where can you add the most value? What seems the most doable with your current resources? Figure that out and TAKE ACTION! It doesn’t need to follow all of the rules! If the numbers make sense and gives you a better return then the bank is offering, and you have multiple exit strategies... Do it!

-Read books and listen to podcasts! There’s a good chance you won’t find one podcast or one book that spells out all of your personal goals and how to achieve them. However, if you write down one or two things from each resource that fits your goals you can develop your own personal plan! We are all products of the collective of information we take in.

Sub tip - Get off social media! (At least negative social media) and by negative I mean the news. Places like Facebook are able to see what you spend the most time watching and give you more of that. If you are outraged by what one group is doing or not doing they will give you more of that garbage, divisive propaganda and keep you angry or worried. Spend more time watching positive stuff, self help, and financial information. Again, you have the choice to be constantly taking in negative crap or stuff that will make you better. It’s your choice!

- Talk to a lender! This goes before analyzing deals and before financing deals for the basic fact that what Zillow is telling you what your mortgage payment will be is not right... And since most assume you need 20% down to buy a property it may seem like a further out goal than it really is.

Once you find a good lender they will be able to tell you a good estimate on what you qualify for and not only what you can afford but what makes the most sense. This information can also guide you towards things you need to work on. Whether it’s eliminating debt/expenses, building credit, saving more money etc. This is the first step.

- Based off the info you get above^ in most cases your situation will be easier if you increase your savings. Whether this is done by frugality, increased income or my favorite BOTH! This will speed up the process. If you are currently working 40 hours a week and say that you don’t have time for a side hustle. This might not be for you. I know a lot of people, myself included who got their start by working their asses off. 80-120 hours a week to get to the goal. This does not have to be your permanent lifestyle either. We preach a short term sacrifices for long term rewards. If you are willing to do this you will be successful. Whether it’s re-selling clothes from the thrift store online or painting houses, cleaning gutters, power washing, dog walking it doesn’t matter. Maximize your time and resources and income!

- Learn skills/trades that will be useful in your real estate career! A lot of investors disagree with me on this one. I think that the more skills you know, if something goes wrong at a property you have the knowledge and skill set to fix them yourself. Eventually you can hire this stuff out but in the beginning you will save SO MUCH MONEY and later on when you do hire it out you know what needs to be done and won’t get taken advantage of. Personally I have done everything at my properties, construction, electrical, plumbing, HVAC, painting etc. All of my jobs and experience in the past has made all of these much easier. Again it’s not essential but will definitely help. In your side hustle time go shadow a friend who does trade work and help them and learn if necessary!

Sub tip - Get your Real Estate License too! A lot of investors will disagree with me on this one too. Haha. However, the knowledge I gained from this course was extremely helpful. I knew that my goals were to purchase at least one property per year for the next 4-5 years. The cost of the course and hanging my license for the first year was just shy of 3k and about 2k per year after that. Year one I got my own commission on my property and helped a friend buy a house made like 7k. Year 2 I went to a Referal agent made about $3000 off of 3 referrals. Now year 3 I have went to eXp (they offer 3 personal deals per year 100% commission) and 80/20 after that. I helped a friend buy a property and plan on doing 2 personal deals (estimating close to 20k). So the numbers make sense and even if you only do one deal and decide that sucked you at least can break even with a ton of knowledge!

-Analyze every deal! (Even the bad ones) Get your reps in. It will be time consuming at first but like everything with more practice you will get better and faster at this. It will give you the ability to look at a property/ purchase price and determine whether or not it’s even worth a full analysis.

- Use the right loan! This kinda goes back to having a good lender but if you are house hacking (the best strategy for building wealth in my opinion) don't miss out on the first time home buyer 5-10% down conventional loan! A lot of people start out with the FHA Loan 3.5% down and then are not eligible to get the latter. We started with this 5% conventional loan. Then because there wasn't any triplexes or quads available we did 15% conventional on a cheaper duplex. We are now looking to maximize our returns with the FHA 3.5% down loan.

- Network! Talk to everyone and find out how you can add value to them. I mean everyone! Not just the successful people you know. Every single person that you talk to, act interested in them and add value too might not give you a deal or help you monetarily. You can’t view it as a 1 to 1 (he owes me) type of mentality. But the more people you help and add value too the better things will normally go for you. Don’t over extend yourself too much where people take advantage of you. Basic niceness and caring about what people are talking about “praying” for people considering others problems. The more people you talk to the better chance is you will know somebody who can help them.

-Honesty. A lot of people here want to know how they can get around telling the tenants that they own the place. To me this only makes sense if your goal is to be a slumlord who differs maintenance and doesn’t fix stuff. If you take pride in the property be proud to own it. My tenants have all seen me working hard so that they have a nice place to live at and they appreciate it. The same way that you appreciate and expect honesty and openness from your tenants you should give the same to them.

-Use Facebook marketplace. For everything, listing rentals, buying appliances, tools, cars etc. I think this has been one of the best tools I’ve used with being a landlord.

-Set 1 or 2 days for a few hours for open houses. If you try to make everyone else happy and fit everyone’s schedule you will drive yourself crazy. Tell applicants those are the days if they can’t make it, let them know “I’m sure you would be a great tenant and I’m probably missing out but this is all that works for my schedule” if they are serious they will find a way to make it.

-Background and credit check yeah it’s necessary... I made the mistake of not and renting to the first person who told me they would pay the year in advance. It all worked out and I didn’t lose money but definitely caused some headaches. For background checks I use PAEdockets it’s a free app that can pull up an individuals court records. Then for credit checks I require all applicants to download credit karma and show me the app 600 minimum (not the most important factor) if their background is clean and income is above 3X the rent amount good credit is just a bonus.

-Appliances included in rent. In my leases I put in that these appliances are included in as-is conditions. If the fridge/Window AC/washer/dryer go bad I will give them $100 towards replacing it. They can pocket the money and grab one from their parents, buy a used one for $60 or put it towards a new one that costs $300 it doesn’t matter to me what they do. If there was a working appliance there when they got in they must leave one. This gives them a heightened sense of ownership and if they have to replace it surprisingly it doesn’t break a often!

-Finally Don’t buy a new car. Lol

Again, in the scheme of things I am brand new and have a lot to learn myself. These tips would have been helpful for myself going into things. Maybe I would’ve saved myself some aggravation along the way if I new these things. I hope something in this helps someone starting out!

Best of luck and feel free to reach out to me directly with any questions or if you want to connect!

Jake

Post: 2 unit property lawn care maintance (bottom and top)

Jacob LappPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Souderton, PA
  • Posts 124
  • Votes 106

@Gavin Joel arredondo

I’m big on giving cash for things like this. Find out what used mowers are going for on fb marketplace. And offer this amount (one time) for them to either buy something used/ put it towards a new one/ pocket the cash and use their parents it doesn’t matter, this is just covering you because you told them that you would take care of this. Now you are off the hook for equipment maintenance, fixing it if it breaks etc.

Now since it’s in their lease that “they are responsible for lawn care” you are waiving some responsibility to them. This doesn’t mean they need to do it, they could pay someone else too. If they decide to do it personally it’s on them.

I’m not a lawyer and maybe the other people on this forum are right but this is how I handle it.

Good luck

Post: How do I veil tenants from knowing I am the property owner?

Jacob LappPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Souderton, PA
  • Posts 124
  • Votes 106

@Luke Baumbach

I had the same question starting out. I was younger than any of my tenants and was living at the properties for a year.

I decided to just be honest and say yeah I own the place. If you don’t buy in an llc (which I didn’t) it’s public record so they could figure it out if they wanted too. And for what? What’s the advantage of lying to them?

I could see this being of some importance if your plan is to be an absentee landlord who doesn’t take pride in the property and differs all maintenance and doesn’t fix things when they come up.

For most of us that’s not the case. My tenants see me out there putting the work in for them to have a nice place to live and they appreciate it.

Just my 2 cents. Best of luck!