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All Forum Posts by: Jack B.

Jack B. has started 419 posts and replied 1844 times.

Post: Fence dispute with neighbor, input based on your knowledge appreciated

Jack B.Posted
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  • Seattle, WA
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Quote from @Nathan Harden:

Just ignore him. If he wants to try and get some higher up authorities involved, then go from there if that day ever comes.

Call his bluff essentially. Then if he continues to bug you, bring up the driveway and ask if he wants to go down the route of the fence then you'll explore the driveway issue at the same time.

 I was able to find this after all, even though the county records showed no easement, a document search showed one. It was granted to some water company, but it looks like what I suspect to be general easement terms for ingress and egress that would give him right to use my driveway after all, bummer...

Post: Fence dispute with neighbor, input based on your knowledge appreciated

Jack B.Posted
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Quote from @Nathan Harden:

Just ignore him. If he wants to try and get some higher up authorities involved, then go from there if that day ever comes.

Call his bluff essentially. Then if he continues to bug you, bring up the driveway and ask if he wants to go down the route of the fence then you'll explore the driveway issue at the same time.


 This is brilliant. I can word it carefully too. "While exploring the fence situation I also explored the driveway with no easement situation and decided to implement a fee to help me cover the taxes and maintenance of the section of my parcel that is paved and dedicated for your use as a driveway."

Post: Fence dispute with neighbor, input based on your knowledge appreciated

Jack B.Posted
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I have a rental property where:

1) The neighbor has a fence that is aligned with a telephone pole which may be the property marker. Long before he or I owned our houses at this location, the neighbor/owner at the time built a fence against a hill on my property. That hill collapsed a bit and damaged his fence, pushing it over a few inches. 

2) The fence still functions as a fence and works just fine. 

3) The neighbor appears to be mentally ill, he texts me regularly demanding to know when I will do X, then Y, then Z. He demands regular updates.

4) I hired a guy to dig the hill away from his fence, but he now demands I build a retaining wall and pay to repair his fence. 

5) His driveway runs through  MY property and shares MY driveway...there is no easement on record with the county for this. Title search only found an easement for the installation of a well. That's it.


How do I get this guy off my back? Or just ignore him?

Post: Do you plan on eventually cashing out and moving away from real estate?

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Quote from @David M.:
Quote from @Jack B.:
Quote from @Account Closed:

From a tax perspective, its best to "buy, borrow, and die". If you can gift your heirs cash flowing real estate they can rely on, I would think that is practically better then a massive stock portfolio. 


 From a tax perspective...

 @Jack B. @Account Closed (especially Mr. Jensen as an accountant) You guys are going to have to explain that to me.  From a tax perspective, how is a cash flowing real estate portfolio better than a massive stock portfolio?

For starters, the former presents the heirs with a bunch of management issues.  If there is a PM, then they have to spend time communicating with them.  Depending on how transferred on death, all the Titles have to be refiled --- time and expense.  If the heirs don't know or don't want to have a real estate portfolio, real property is illiquid and will cost to liquidate.  

The latter presents the heirs with no management issues.  If setup similarly, it will be generating massive cash flow (as I've already mentioned in other posts above and elsewhere) as well, even potentially tax advantaged.  The very wealthy rely on tax free municipal investments.  Depending on what state, it can even be triple-tax free.  The assets are completely liquid.  Upon notification of death, the brokerage can handle the transfer on death and have the accounts created and assets transferred in less than few days.  The assets can be liquidated, and only tax consequence is the change in values from the date of death --- yeah, step in basis applies to a lot more than just real estate.

Oh, and if the heir keep the real property, they are now most likely banking up more deferred tax liability (e.g. the depreciation), the exact characteristic you are trying to get away from via death.

Please explain what am I missing (other than I am sure there is more to my argument)?  Thanks so much.


 Leverage increases returns. I was making 150% on my money each year. 

To top it off, it's tax advantaged income. It actually offsets my other income...

I can grow it entirely tax free....

Downsides of course are management, management, management. Hence why I posted this thread. I don't see myself being a landlord forever. Getting closer to two decades of this, and I don't want to deal with tenants and Karen neighbors anymore.

Post: Do you plan on eventually cashing out and moving away from real estate?

Jack B.Posted
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Quote from @Carlos Ptriawan:
Quote from @Jack B.:
Quote from @Account Closed:

From a tax perspective, its best to "buy, borrow, and die". If you can gift your heirs cash flowing real estate they can rely on, I would think that is practically better then a massive stock portfolio. 


 From a tax perspective...


whenever I read the borrow and die I found it to be very funny, first of all the borrow part is no longer working as interest rate is whooping 6-8% , HELOC is 12/14% and once we are retire, there's no opportunity really to do refi or HELOC. So that window opportunity is closed.

I would rather pay tax and live happy in the younger days, there're just still so many opps to live happy without thinking not to die LOL


You aren't supposed to borrow every year....and there are DSCR loans that don't require W2 income to qualify for loans. Helps if you actually know what you're talking about.

Post: Do you plan on eventually cashing out and moving away from real estate?

Jack B.Posted
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Quote from @David M.:
Quote from @Carlos Ptriawan:

I would rather pay tax and live happy in the younger days, there're just still so many opps to live happy without thinking not to die LOL

@Carlos Ptriawan Yes, finally another topic we can agree!  Why bother paying somebody/entity 6%-8% for years for your own money when you can just pay uncle sam once!  then, of course, on any additional gains you make.

I had one "older/wiser" investor try to "sell" me that if I sold I'd only KEEP 40%.  After having saying he would send me how there is a 60% tax/fees, he has since ghosted me.   I love how investors get "sold" on paying a lender continual interest is better than paying your tax once.


 Because you're paying the loan back with devalued dollars, and inflation adjusted income while expenses are fixed. 

Post: Do you plan on eventually cashing out and moving away from real estate?

Jack B.Posted
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Quote from @Account Closed:

From a tax perspective, its best to "buy, borrow, and die". If you can gift your heirs cash flowing real estate they can rely on, I would think that is practically better then a massive stock portfolio. 


 From a tax perspective...

Post: Do you plan on eventually cashing out and moving away from real estate?

Jack B.Posted
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Quote from @John C.:

We sold it all in 2019 and retired in our early 40s. Thought about 1031 but after a year couldn’t find anything that would cash flow as well as our units. Didn’t want to the hassle of maintenance or management. So we sold it all piece by piece, paid the taxes, and never looked back.  Also it completely freed us to be able to travel anytime anywhere for weeks at a time and ultimately months at a time.  

I know we had less on paper right after selling. But the stock market has been good and I think we made up most if not all of the $ lost to taxes in the last few years.   And probably from here on our networth will grow even faster than had we left it in RE.  The stock market does tend to grow much faster.  And no hassles.  

We bought some amount of dividend paying stocks and indexes that help to offset our previous cashflow.  

I initially thought I would keep the properties as a part time job forever.  But, once we had enough networth and dividends there was no more need to keep working.  

To each their own. We decided that enough was enough and left the field completely.  Never been happier or less stressed.  


 Thank you for this. This was largely the kind of response and perspective I was looking for by posting this thread. I'm in my early 40's as well, almost 42. I made nearly 6 million from my real estate investments and career, as far as net worth, only to watch it drop to 4 million due to the feds interest rates. Some of that has been from working a high paying nearly half a million dollar a year career.

But I've grown tired of WA politics, and idiot tenants as well as the Karens that neighbor some of my rentals. I worry about frivolous lawsuits. I envision a day where I live off dividend stocks I've been trying out such as JEPQ and JEPI. At 10% dividends from 200K invested, between that and nearly 50K in cashflow from my rental houses, as well as a paid off lake house (if I decide to pay it off and retire here) I could easily retire AND save money still. All the while I'd still have a cool mil in cash to put into VTSAX or VGT (but I've only ever lost money in the stock market so I'm a bit wary, right now I've been trying out the buy and hold strategy and riding out the 10% + drops the last year). Anyways, the idea is to keep growing my wealth that way. The carpet cleaner I hire for my rentals also used to have rentals, he sold them paid the taxes, bought a cleaning franchise and retired from his VP sales job. Said he's happier without the rentals and he made the money back in the stock market several fold. 

In any case, thank you for your candid response and sharing your numbers. It's refreshing to know I could theoretically pull the trigger, I've seen so many people do it with less money than me, by far. Yet here I am still grinding in Big Tech. That said the huge salary is nice and I am trying to make it to 45 (3 more years).

Post: Do you plan on eventually cashing out and moving away from real estate?

Jack B.Posted
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Quote from @Carlos Ptriawan:

All the cash-flow in real estate is becoming a joke when we could create safe and hedged 20-50% dividend income with latest product of derivative-options ETF.

$6000 investment is printing $380 per month LOL.

The only way moving forward with real estate is only appreciation these days. As long as I force myself to DSCRed all asset close to 1.0 I should be good . 

No syndication, no hundred dollar cash flow, nothing. Print money just using ETF/dividend.


 I agree, take a look at JEPI and JEPQ, 10% dividends and the JEPQ ETF went up 20+ % on top of that last year. All while real estate is down and has been down for a couple years. RE was good to buy 2012 to 2021 but now...meh....

I took just over 150K and turned it into a few million in RE in just over a decade. But now that I have money I could make more money faster in VTSAX or VGT. That said, it's still worth it to keep some RE for the tax benefits....and diversification.

Post: Should I reject these applicants and keep looking?

Jack B.Posted
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Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:

I would pass on both Tenant A and B. They just sound like PITAs. Why not just keep advertising to find a good solid LTR tenant? They have to be out there somewhere.

Or better, do #C and do it again as a STR in the summer....at least with a STR you avoid the LL unfriendly laws.

Pay attention to what @Henry T. says. the stories we hear are too many and too scary to ignore.

That's kind of my worry, the second guy I already rejected since he started getting really demanding already, the first couple I'm tempted to reject because they have a dog (I'm not a fan, my neighbors have dogs and another dog in the yard will result in constant barking between them, I've seen it with the people who used to own this place) and the husband works from home so he will be around all day. To top it off, I found out they get nearly twice what I'm charging for rent in per diem from the hospital but were STILL trying to negotiate the rate down, which is actually FAAAAR below market....especially for a furnished mid term rental...on a lake. That said, I would at least be getting 2K a month from them, but yeah, I'd be missing out on the potential long term tenant. Right now things are picking up and I'm getting more tours now that the holidays are over. I have another rental coming up as vacant so I'd rather not have too many vacancies at a time, last year I had 12 months worth of vacancy between a few rentals because everyone started going out to buy houses at high interest rates....