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All Forum Posts by: Isaac Yung

Isaac Yung has started 1 posts and replied 13 times.

Post: Vacant Land Value

Isaac YungPosted
  • Pittsburgh, PA
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 8

hello there,

I recommend checking these two articles out by Seth at the RETipster blog. 

w/ Redfin http://retipster.com/vacant-land-valuation/

AND here (w/ zillow)http://retipster.com/valueofland/

Good luck! Those should answer all your questions along with the rest of the articles at that site. 

Post: Introducing myself - Scottsdale AZ

Isaac YungPosted
  • Pittsburgh, PA
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 8

Thanks for your insight. It's good to know where the stutter steps may be before I start.  I'll attempt to mitigate these concerns as I build a routine/process.  I'll keep your comments in mind as I do so. I noticed from @Seth Williams' writing that writing the neighbors letters results in a sale about 7% of the time or so (35% callback rate with a 20% conversion rate) if you haven't stumbled across it yet, here's the link to his article. Article

I'm wondering if hooking up with a few tiny home manufacturers as a referral source might be a smart move. Maybe I'll test the waters towards the end of the year when things start to slow down. 

Info like this will save me tons of time and energy down the road.  If you ever have a commercial credit question feel free to PM me. 

Thanks again,

Post: Introducing myself - Scottsdale AZ

Isaac YungPosted
  • Pittsburgh, PA
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 8

Hello DeWitt,

Welcome to the site. So I'm a Credit Analyst interested in vacant land flipping as you describe it and it seems like the harder part in all the steps to complete a transaction is the sale. Outside of wholesaling, which would be difficult to impossible to do starting out, selling to "off the grid" people would seem like a good market to tap. Why do you think these individuals are harder to deal with in your experience? Any experience you can lend would be appreciated!

Post: Swampy vacant land in Alaska

Isaac YungPosted
  • Pittsburgh, PA
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 8

Here's a next best method to value your land, provided that the issues you're wrestling with don't disqualify the deal for you. This Article should work better for you out in the boonies where Redfin data isn't available. Good luck!

Post: Swampy vacant land in Alaska

Isaac YungPosted
  • Pittsburgh, PA
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 8

Hello Angela,

If you're confident in your values, the deal sounds great to me. I second John Becker's advice on attaining a good value. Also, if you haven't already read this Article from Seth Williams, do so. It covers how a perc test works pretty comprehensively. That'll cover the septic question.

For the wells, I'm not positive. I would agree with Greg on asking the neighbors for that one.

For your value question, if the perc test and well questions check out, you can use Redfin to get a more precise value for your land according to a process outlined by Seth Williams in this Article.

Let me know if these links help you out. I've been reading Seth's blog extensively lately.

Post: lessons I've learned from flipping

Isaac YungPosted
  • Pittsburgh, PA
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 8

Awesome comments Jonathan. These are great tips for a newbie flipper to watch out for! 

@Brian Camp  I just checked this post again today. Thanks for the welcome! Did you major in Finance (like me) per chance?

Originally posted by @Joe Bertolino:

Have a deal to present.   Present the deal or an example of the types of deals you are targeting and your business model showing their return and security.   Have an exit strategy for each property and show them how and when they are going to be paid back.   

 Hello @Lance Cummins  I know this post is a few months old but, the author of Pitch Anything is Oren Klaff. It's a good read.

First, I agree with @Joe B's general remarks; however, I'm leaning towards using family to fund my first deal in the future as well and I'd like to add some of my thoughts.

I was thinking of opening the conversation with quick greetings and catching up, then getting to the point quickly and presenting a well put together underwriting packet with LOTS of pictures in the back and concise metrics in the front to convey why this deal is good on paper since your construction relative may not have any real estate investment background other than the negative stigma associated with the 2008 crash.

I'm might emphasize the following features of the deal to make the family member feel as at ease as possible EARLY in the conversation in order to get them to lower their defenses caused by previously mentioned stigma to be open to hearing the rest of your pitch:

- Compare your suggested rate (8%-10%) to average return in the stock market (8%) then to a 10 yr CD or 10 yr Treasury Note which have (1-2% and 2.15% respectively).

- Have THEM hold the title, physically, if possible. 

- How & When they get their money back? Explain that after 5-10 years, the equity built into the house would be sufficient to obtain conventional financing and get their money out.

- Offer to fly them down over a weekend to view the subject property if they want.

- Make their funding the loan contingent on receiving an appraised "As Complete" value that's higher than the loan amount. Explain that most appraisals give an "As Is" value, but since you're doing renovations, you believe that the property will sell at a much higher value that will be validated by an outside professional before they part with their money.

- Anything else you can think of.

These conditions are highly derivative of typical conditions that my bank would require after approving but before funding a loan. As a result, they put your investor in a the safest possible position and put them at ease at least a little bit.
Also, I'm going to ask that my investor put down 100% of the purchase+repairs+holding costs.

Suggest it be funded by a self directed IRA, which you can help set up so the whole thing will be pre-tax.

Most importantly, tell them how much money they'll be making as a result of this deal. They're probably not finance masters so telling them they're going to make 10% won't have near the impact of saying they'll actually make $58,581 over that time. (Assumes $100,000 at 10% over 10 yrs.)

I feel like @Brandon Turner's book How to Buy Real Estate with No (and Low) Money Down would have some valuable info regarding this specific topic. 

Wow, I ended up using this replay to brainstorm how to fund my first deal in the future so thanks for asking the question!

Run all this by your lawyer etc, etc. 

Thanks @Matt McCourry  I'll look that book up on Amazon. 

Thanks everyone!  I found out that the free iPhone app Foxit Pdf provides text to speech for PDFs which is perfect for The Book on Flipping Houses and Estimating Rehab Costs I picked up yesterday.

That'll keep me busy for a while. I'll look out for you all on the forums after I get further into the books. Happy New Years,