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All Forum Posts by: Irene Low

Irene Low has started 3 posts and replied 19 times.

Post: Not finding good deals on duplexes- should I buy anyway?

Irene LowPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Killeen, TX
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 24
Quote from @Julien Jeannot:

@Irene Low

Difficult to make anything cash flow with 6%-8% down, especially with current interest rates.

Instead, look at it from a long term perspective: 3 to 5 years out. Play out a conservative appreciation, principal pay day and year over year rent increases.

You'll see significant net worth growth and the asset more likely to cash flow after you move out.

Thanks, Julien! I’m going to review historical appreciation in the area. 

Post: Not finding good deals on duplexes- should I buy anyway?

Irene LowPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Killeen, TX
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 24
Quote from @Eliott Elias:

Most properties do not cash flow at all with the current interest rates. What you can do is buy so far under market value and maybe structure a loan to have interest only payments to cash flow for a few years until interest rates come back down. There are four plexes in Killeen that cash flow currently.

Hm interest only payments.. can you tell me more? Does this require to buy points? What are the drawbacks with this?

Post: Not finding good deals on duplexes- should I buy anyway?

Irene LowPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Killeen, TX
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 24
Quote from @Theresa Harris:
Quote from @Irene Low:
Quote from @Theresa Harris:

Because you are putting down less than 20% (which is what most people buying rentals put down as they aren't living in the house), it will be harder to find something that cash flows.  The higher interest rates will also make it harder.

How long have you been looking and have you thought about changing your criteria on what you are looking for?

I’ve been looking for 3-4 months, not sure if that’s a long time, but it feels like a while to me. I initially thought I’d be ok with having a duplex that’s older and a bit run down in order to purchase at lower prices, but after my first tour of a property like this, I had second thoughts and established I should be more open to newer/more expensive (and safer) properties as I’d potentially be living without my partner. There’s a couple newer duplexes I’d consider.. if I can negotiate nearly $50k below asking… not sure how well that’d be accepted. 

 You will have fewer options for duplexes, so 3-4 months may not be long enough depending on the market.  Finding a place in a safe area is important whether you live in it or renters do. You need to think about the type of tenant you will attracts.  If you only looked at one place that needed to be fixed up and changed your mind, try looking at one that needs less work.  Also separate what is cosmetic vs major renos (eg coat of paint and a good clean vs problems with a foundation).  Fixers are cheaper, but you need the money to fix them.

Are you working with a realtor who is used to working with investors?  If not, find one who is.  As for negotiating $50K less than asking-that depends on what the asking price is and how long they've been on the market.

I’m working a realtor who has worked with investors, but I wouldn’t say she has a good knowledge or a lot of experience with it. I appreciate all the feedback, Theresa! 

Post: Not finding good deals on duplexes- should I buy anyway?

Irene LowPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Killeen, TX
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 24
Quote from @Cydney Gray:

Hi Irene! I think units are the easiest way to house hack! In the middle of November a new loan program came out from Fannie Mae that requires only 5% down on 2-4 units. Make sure to compare the fees, payment and rates between FHA and Fannie Mae.

As Theresa Harris said, it is very difficult to have a property cash flow with only a small down payment. This makes looking at historical data on appreciation very important. 

Do some research on what the predicted appreciation is for 2024 and beyond in the areas you're looking. This could help you decided on exactly what are you think could be best to buy in. Also research where rents are the highest and if there are any multi unit properties available in those areas. 

Try to estimate how long you will live in the property. Generally speaking, the longer you live In it the easier it will be to have it cash flow when you move out. 

Sometimes the riches in real estate happen quickly but most of the time it is a longer haul to get to having both equity and cash flow. If you are willing to invest the money AND the time, I'm sure you'll reach your financial goals!

Thanks, Cydney! My lender did inform me of the Fannie Mae loan and compared it to the FHA. I plan to live in it for a year max. I’m looking in the area of my hometown, a suburb an hour away from Austin, TX. Do you have any good resources to look at historical data of appreciation? 

Post: Not finding good deals on duplexes- should I buy anyway?

Irene LowPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Killeen, TX
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 24
Quote from @Theresa Harris:

Because you are putting down less than 20% (which is what most people buying rentals put down as they aren't living in the house), it will be harder to find something that cash flows.  The higher interest rates will also make it harder.

How long have you been looking and have you thought about changing your criteria on what you are looking for?

I’ve been looking for 3-4 months, not sure if that’s a long time, but it feels like a while to me. I initially thought I’d be ok with having a duplex that’s older and a bit run down in order to purchase at lower prices, but after my first tour of a property like this, I had second thoughts and established I should be more open to newer/more expensive (and safer) properties as I’d potentially be living without my partner. There’s a couple newer duplexes I’d consider.. if I can negotiate nearly $50k below asking… not sure how well that’d be accepted. 

Post: Not finding good deals on duplexes- should I buy anyway?

Irene LowPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Killeen, TX
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 24

I'm shopping the market for my first duplex to house-hack, it's my first time buying a property, period. I plan to use a FHA loan and put down somewhere from 6-8%. I'm finding it very difficult to find deals that will produce any positive income after I move out and both sides are rented out. The best deals I can find barely break even with the mortgage. I'm almost to the point where I'm feeling a little desperate and I'm debating if I should just buy a property anyway, simply betting on the fact that the property will appreciate over time when sold in several years, and not focus so much on the monthly cash flow I could receive if I found a good deal.

I'd like to hear your thoughts- Someone tell me why this is or isn't a valid way to evaluate/think about my first purchase.

My ultimate goal with real estate investing: buy more properties after this and achieve financial freedom.

My ultimate goal with my first purchase: get my foot in the door, make a little bit of money (I'd be ok with not making money, as long as I'm not losing money), see if I want to continue real estate investing, decide if this is the strategy I want to focus on (vs. BRRR, Airbnb, etc)

Post: First-time house hacking... Is there a bad way to house hack?

Irene LowPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Killeen, TX
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 24

The way I see it, a brand spanking new duplex wouldn't be the smartest deal because of the high purchase price and you'd likely not cash flow, if not be in the negative. But is it better or worse than not buying anything at all? I'm really just curious if you can ever go wrong with house-hacking. 

In my mind, pretty much anyone who buys a duplex or any multi-family home is either a RE investor or an aspiring RE investor and brand new duplexes, what I would consider not typically the best/smartest deals, are still being purchased left and right. 
I'm wondering if there's something I'm missing here.
I'm trying to make sense of it- I guess if you held on to something like a brand new duplex, over time, especially after you move out after a year or so, you'd eventually cash flow positively due to increasing rents.. Yeah? 

Post: Searching for house-hack but duplexes are fully-leased

Irene LowPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Killeen, TX
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 24

I wouldn't want to leave the tenants in a difficult situation either. I was not aware that lease termination was something I could do. Thank you, everyone, for your input! 

Post: Searching for house-hack but duplexes are fully-leased

Irene LowPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Killeen, TX
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 24

I'm looking to buy my first home (aiming for duplex, but open to other types of properties that will allow me to house-hack) using a FHA loan. When I look at the duplexes in my area, most of them are leased with tenants on both sides. I'm not finding much that allows me to live in one unit.

What are some alternative house-hacking routes or tips? If the description states "both tenant leases expire at such and such date", is there a method to maneuver myself into one of the units so I can live in it? 

Excuse my lack of knowledge, I have not even talked to a realtor yet because I guess I'm afraid that they'll say finding what I want is impossible in my area.