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All Forum Posts by: Jason O.

Jason O. has started 31 posts and replied 101 times.

Post: partnering up

Jason O.Posted
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 112
  • Votes 2

I went to a rei meeting. There was a lawyer there. I emailed his office if I can get contracts for assignments, disclosures, etc.

His paralegal says he doesn't do assignments and has his own contracts but does have a partnership program on doing short sales.

I have to look for a distressed property. They'll be teaching me and training me, handle all negotiations with on my file with bank/lender with me being the main contact with the home owner. They'll negotiate the lowest price from the seller and find a buyer with the highest prices. I just have to keep the home owner happy and informed.

split is 66% to 33%. It sounds like a bird dogging gig. I understand why they would want to negotiate b/c I'm new. But how will I know how much is being made?

I would need my own LLC which I'm going to do anyway.

What do you think people?

Post: assignment and double close contracts

Jason O.Posted
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 112
  • Votes 2

If anyone is generous enough to let me have one, I'd appreciate it. Also, I'll need investor disclosures.

Post: assignment and double close contracts

Jason O.Posted
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 112
  • Votes 2

Where can I get assignment and double close contracts? Do I get this from a lawyer in my state? I'm in NJ.

Post: wholesaling to investors, not consumers

Jason O.Posted
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 112
  • Votes 2

Thank you, J Scott for your help.

Post: possible buyer and seller

Jason O.Posted
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 112
  • Votes 2
Originally posted by Financexaminer:
Originally posted by J O:
J Scott, I appreciate it.
Good news. I figured out why it's important to have a cash buyer. It's b/c lenders don't like to see it's being bought/sold so quickly. That's why a double closing is needed.

But, wholesaling with cash buyer, you still need a title company, right? Won't most title companies do assignments with cash end buyers?


If you have a cash buyer, use an option and sell the option. No, most all banks will not allow their contract to be assigned, an Everyday seller, is another matter as contrcats are assignable unless they say they are not. The title company will usually want the lender to know or approve of any assignment. Your threads are overlapping information, lol. Good luck, Bill

Bill, so as long as the title company knows/approves of any assignments. It's fine. The title company I spoke with said he stayed away from assignments with banks. But I said to him, if I let the bank would that be ok? He didn't say no. He quieted down and mumbled like it was ok.

He was pushing that assigning was ok with REO or sheriff sales, at least that's what I thought I heard. All this info is coming 100 mph.

Thank you for all your help. Where can I find a resource or organization on what not to do in REI?

Post: wholesaling to investors, not consumers

Jason O.Posted
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 112
  • Votes 2
Originally posted by Financexaminer:
Originally posted by wheelhouse:


What is the statute that says this is fraudulent?


ALTA has the condcern. Fraud is defined and includes deceit to gain a financially. So, if you look at this closing, second by second, you sign to buy, then you sign to sell, but at the moment you signed documents to sell, you did not own the property sold since it was not paid for. Yoiu can't pay for it because you have not sold it yet to get the money to buy it. Selling something you don't own is fraud. While it was done for decades, only now do they split these hairs to crack down on the investor stratigies. Bill



Bill, you made it clearer for me. Selling something you don't own is fraud. S,o the paper work has to be clear and properly processed. It has to be evident second by second: I (investor) bought from the seller with cash or hard money/transactional funding then sold the property ( which at this point I own b/c I actually paid for it) to the end buyer.

Now, the reason why wholesaling is ok. I'm only selling my rights to buy (option contract) the property to an end buyer.

Post: possible buyer and seller

Jason O.Posted
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 112
  • Votes 2

J Scott, I appreciate all the help. Thank you for clearing up that assigning a contract and double closing are methods of wholesaling.

With regards to fraud, what things shouldn't I do that will be fraudulent?
Will an investor disclosure (explaining what I'm doing) to both seller and end buyer be enough to keep it being fraudulent? What can I say to make it clear to all parties as to keep myself protected from fraud?

Post: possible buyer and seller

Jason O.Posted
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 112
  • Votes 2

J Scott, I appreciate it.
Good news. I figured out why it's important to have a cash buyer. It's b/c lenders don't like to see it's being bought/sold so quickly. That's why a double closing is needed.

But, wholesaling with cash buyer, you still need a title company, right? Won't most title companies do assignments with cash end buyers?

Post: New Member from NJ, PA

Jason O.Posted
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 112
  • Votes 2

La Joyce, I spoke to the people at the Rutherford Title company. Thank you. He's great. He gave me information on the right way to do things with double closing like using transactional funding. He did frown upon assigning contracts with banks involved but I didn't ask about cash buyers. I mean it only makes sense. He said disclosures are important to both parties

Post: wholesaling to investors, not consumers

Jason O.Posted
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 112
  • Votes 2

Ok. I just spoke to a title company guy. NOW, I see why it's important to have cash buyers! On financed lender deals, banks want as much money as they can. So if you're double closing or assigning on financed deal, it's going to be harder; unless, of course, the bank says it's ok when you disclose it.

Title guy told me you can get into trouble with fraud if the banks find out you didn't disclose that you were buying and selling. At this point, I realize: that's why it's important to have a cash buyer and a motivated seller (that's not a bank).

He also said he deals in buying and selling, not double closing, The best thing to do is use transactional funding when buying and selling. It looks like a clean transfer.