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All Forum Posts by: Paul Chae

Paul Chae has started 17 posts and replied 61 times.

Post: Cash out refi queston

Paul ChaePosted
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Originally posted by @Owen Dashner:

@Hoyoon Chae, why not just skip the headache of trying to get it to fit in a conventional mortgage box and get a commercial loan? Small banks and credit unions do these all the time on smaller balance loans. Less underwriting headache and seasoning requirements. The rates/terms may not be as good as conventional, but it is well worth the tradeoff, IMO. Get some referrals to commercial bankers and hit the phones.

Good luck!

Thanks for your advice. I called up probably around 15-20 local banks, mortgage entities. Maybe I could try to find credit unions. And I didn't really intend to go conventional loan, as they would require seasoning periods

Post: Cash out refi queston

Paul ChaePosted
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Originally posted by @Andrew Postell:

@Paul Chae you can certainly file your own lien after you purchase the property.  That is acceptable.

Is that right? I will certainly have to keep updating myself on this! Much appreciated again.

Post: Cash out refi queston

Paul ChaePosted
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Originally posted by @Joseph Scorese:

@Hoyoon Chae, let me know if I can assist

Regards

Joe Scorese

Hello! 

I sent a dm 

Thank you

Post: Cash out refi queston

Paul ChaePosted
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Originally posted by @Daniel Vineis:

I always include my rehab on my CD and use delayed financing to avoid the seasoning period. Just a thought for you moving forward with your next deal @Paul Chae. Also talk to @Drew Walls not sure if he can help you with the loan being so small but he is a very good New Jersey lender.

I am very interested in that as well! I heard of the term delayed financing on BP podcast or somewhere one time. Definitely will look into that route. And very much appreciated for referral! I will contact Mr.Drew Walls

Post: Cash out refi queston

Paul ChaePosted
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Originally posted by @Andrew Postell:

@Paul Chae yes, that is a good strategy if you are seeking Fannie/Freddie money. Do you feel you could qualify for that type of a loan?

Yes I think so. But for this first house of mine, I guess it's too late for the strategy to work. But I've always thought about looking into LLC for other advantages as well. I just never knew it would help getting cash out refi using conventional loans with a little seasoning period.

Post: Cash out refi queston

Paul ChaePosted
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Originally posted by @Andrew Postell:

@Paul Chae try posting in the New Jersey forum to see if there's any locals that can point you in the right direction.  At this loan amount it will be difficult.

Hello sir! Yesterday I read your post about 'setting up an LLC to do properly cash out refi' that was posted 3years ago. It was very informative and I am trying to go through all other helpful comments there.

anyway I already posted in NJ forum before. I managed to get in contact with a lender but due to coronavirus, they increased the minimum amount to 100k.

Post: Cash out refi queston

Paul ChaePosted
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Originally posted by @Kenneth Garrett:

@Paul Chae

I agree with @Andre Taylor rent it as soon as possible and start making income.  In the meantime contact local lenders and see who will do loans for less than 100K.  Local lenders will be your best choice with the best terms.

 Thank you for the advice. I guess I'd better call up all the local lenders. Heard no from 10 lenders more or less earlier this March, But who knows if I could find some luck!

Post: Cash out refi queston

Paul ChaePosted
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Originally posted by @Andre Taylor:

Yeah that is your best option to get it rented and wait out the seasonal period to refi for better rates... during that time you can make contact with local lenders to find ones that may have a shorter seasonal period potentially... but this seasonal period is only valid when you have a mortgage on it.. so for future.. get private lender or HML to purchase the property and renovate it...then with some lenders won't require the seasonal hold period.

Thanks for the advice. Will keep this in mind. As to the last part of your comment, correct me if I am wrong. you mean use none of my money, but private lender or HML? And then refinance it with a lender that doesn't require seasonal hold period?

Post: Cash out refi queston

Paul ChaePosted
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Originally posted by @Jaysen Medhurst:

You may find a HML that does long-term financing, @Paul Chae. Terms won't be great and the fact that it's under $100k may be a problem.

Most traditional lenders require 6-months seasoning before they will lend based on a new appraisal. If I were you, I'd get the house rented and start making contact with all the local banks and CUs in the area. Find out products they offer for a property like yours. That way once 6-months pass, you'll have a game plan.

 Thank you for the comment. I understand going with conventional loan after 6months would come with better term. But I wonder what is there to be done for 6months as to investing apart from my full-time job. If it makes sense, I'd like to own 2 houses with loans that is not so great, rather than 1 house with a loan that has better term.

Post: Cash out refi queston

Paul ChaePosted
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Originally posted by @Joe P.:

What was your CF goal with this property? I mean, I get it, we want the capital back, but either you're an aggressive cash-out refinancee at not so great terms to turn-and-burn into other properties with little seasoning, or you are a conservative cash-flow-above-all-else with 6-12 months seasoning to get onto the next property in the same timeframe. There may be examples of both types of investors, but it would require an extremely favorable set of requirements of high cash flow, high difference between purchase/rehab and ARV, a ready-to-go money lender, etc.

My short term goal is owning 4-10 properties, gaining experiences in the game, but at the end of the day I hope to grow fast. In other words, I would like to buy 4 to 6 SFR every year other than 2. And I did not expect this first deal to bring money in my pocket anyway. Initial analysis was that cashflow would be around $280 , conservatively