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All Forum Posts by: Maggie Tasseron

Maggie Tasseron has started 0 posts and replied 215 times.

Post: Getting called a "slumlord" by friends and family

Maggie TasseronPosted
  • Investor
  • Palm Desert, CA
  • Posts 215
  • Votes 64
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

Were these people raised by wolves?  Insist they call you Sir Slumlord or at least Mr. Slumlord.

 Thanks for a good laff, Bob! Sounds like you have the tough skin AND sense of humor required to be a really great (Sir) Slumlord.

Post: Getting called a "slumlord" by friends and family

Maggie TasseronPosted
  • Investor
  • Palm Desert, CA
  • Posts 215
  • Votes 64
Originally posted by @David C.:

You could point out that someone will own these homes and manage them, and if they are your friends and family - don't they think you are a decent guy?  You don't get to define what exists in the world, there is a large population of renters - its a fact, someone will own, manage and maintain the properties.  Why not you?

If not you? who?

And are those other owners going to be better for the tenants and the community than you? if so,  why?

Forget the why's of renting: its a reality.
Forget the why's of income inequality - its not up to you.
You have recognized reality and chosen your place in it.

I'm not a real estate investor because dealing with tenants sounds like more trouble than its worth - its a choice, I know I'm giving up money and returns.  I am able to meet my goals without it.  I have utmost respect for you and what you are doing and hope it goes awesome for you.  I think you earn your gains with either work or risk.  I'm not willing to do the work or take the risk, I certainly believe you deserve the returns you get for doing both.

 Hi David: Let's not forget that real estate investing doesn't necessarily include having tenants. I've been a landlord almost 40 years, but have also flipped properties and the latter is certainly more desirable and has made me better money. However, I do all my own rehab work so the profit is all mine. I'm just now selling my last rental and will never be a landlord again, but I intend to still flip properties as I love the rehab work as much as the financial rewards; wish I had just stuck to that long ago instead of putting up with some of the fools I've had for tenants, but you know what they say about hindsight LOL.

Post: Getting called a "slumlord" by friends and family

Maggie TasseronPosted
  • Investor
  • Palm Desert, CA
  • Posts 215
  • Votes 64
Originally posted by @Robert Nason:
I face the same problem! I own an urban area historic loft building which is beautifully maintained close to the local arts district and a thriving university commanding rents of $2000.00 per unit. I have a few friends who use that term even when introducing me to others. I've summed it up to simply jealousy. I know what my assets and income is and I'll line it up against theirs any day.

Btw its 11am here in the Boston area and I'm sitting on my deck enjoying my coffee while they practice law, or deal with the corporate rat race 9-5 life.

 Are you sure these people are your friends? Sorry, but I just had to ask... Sounds to me like you're doing just great!

Post: Getting called a "slumlord" by friends and family

Maggie TasseronPosted
  • Investor
  • Palm Desert, CA
  • Posts 215
  • Votes 64
Originally posted by @Veena J.:

I've had this happen to me recently-- my new nickname is "Slumlord Millionaire" lol. I just laugh along with it... if it pays my bills and I'm within good conscience, who cares? This is business, not personal. ;) 

 Do you ever have the feeling that people are especially critical of you because you're a female investor? I've been one for almost 40 years and to this day there are people who assume that some man must have given me everything I own. Fortunately I have a thick skin and care about the opinions of very few people.

Post: Getting called a "slumlord" by friends and family

Maggie TasseronPosted
  • Investor
  • Palm Desert, CA
  • Posts 215
  • Votes 64
Originally posted by @Lynn McGeein:

If it's friends and family, I'd simply go with stupid humor, like "Yes, some day I hope to be the best slumlord there is," or "Not yet, but I'm trying."  Eventually, once they realize they aren't pushing buttons, they'll move on to something else like how poorly they think you're raising your children.    

 Good one, Lynn!

Post: Getting called a "slumlord" by friends and family

Maggie TasseronPosted
  • Investor
  • Palm Desert, CA
  • Posts 215
  • Votes 64
Originally posted by @Steven J.:

I still haven't told my parents how much I'm invested in real estate and I'm completely expecting them to think what I'm doing is taking advantage of people and being a slum lord. My parents are both don't understand business and entrepreneurship nor risk associated with investing and its always frustrating to have conversations with them.

When the time comes, I'm planning to default to my strongest argument which is that I'm providing affordable housing for people that other wise couldn't have a place they could call their own. I'm providing a roof over a family that is their own home using seller financing. I'm happy to be doing a service for such a family and glad to be part of a solution to the growing problem of unaffordable living. 

 It's always an exercise in futility to discuss anything with people who have not even a basic understanding of the subject. My rule of thumb is that anyone who does not support me in my endeavors to improve my life is not a friend of mine, whether they are related to me or not. You sound like a person of integrity and you have no reason to justify what you're doing. Probably easier to just avoid discussing your real estate business with them; it would be so much nicer for you if they would support you, but as they say, you don't get to choose your relatives...

Post: Does the term "SLUM LORD" bother you?

Maggie TasseronPosted
  • Investor
  • Palm Desert, CA
  • Posts 215
  • Votes 64

The only part of this that may mean something to me is the fact that this remark was made by a cop, who may spend considerable time being called out to the area you're investing in. The fact is that in a less-than-desirable neighborhood, you do stand to get less-than-desirable tenants. Even if your properties in soso neighborhoods are in terrific condition, you probably won't be able to get top dollar in a less upscale environment. I do recognize the need for decent housing for ALL tenants, so don't blast me, OK? The question is really Are you prepared for the challenges that are likely to occur in a Class C neighborhood? Don't be deterred by the fact that anyone casually calls you a slumlord; a lot of people envy investors and believe me, in almost 40 years as a landlord, I've been called plenty of names by these folks. 

Post: Breaking a lease

Maggie TasseronPosted
  • Investor
  • Palm Desert, CA
  • Posts 215
  • Votes 64
Originally posted by @Jared Caplinger:

My tenant wants to break his 12 month lease 4 months into the contract. What are my options and how have any of you handled similar situations? Do you refund the security deposit? what about the last months rent that was paid up front? Thanks for any insights!

 Hi Jared: What is the reason he wants to break his lease? That would probably be a factor in my decision as to how to handle this. Hope you have time to let us know.

Post: Floor tile as cheap back splash?

Maggie TasseronPosted
  • Investor
  • Palm Desert, CA
  • Posts 215
  • Votes 64
Originally posted by @Darren Sager:

Hey @Maggie Tasseron, the issue is that tenant's won't do this.  I don't want to have to do this to prep for the next tenant.  I want the place to look good all the time.   So I like to take preventative measures from it happening in the first place.  Epoxy grout and a darker color go a long way to making sure things look great for years to come.

 You're so right Darren, tenants will not do this. Frankly, if a tenant is willing to live with dirty grout, I'm really not that concerned and having found a pretty simple way of cleaning it for the next tenant hasn't been too daunting. However, I sure would prefer a grout sealer that really works and intend to try the epoxy grout next time I tile. I'm really not fond of dark grout but as you say, it certainly is one solution. I always end up selling my rentals, so I prefer to use a grout color I like. Thanks for your reply.

I always provide a range and dishwasher. I've rented out properties both with and without fridges, depending on the circumstances. Whenever I provide a washer and dryer, I  specify that those are in the properties for the tenants' use, but specify that if they break down, repairs will be paid for by the tenants. This is because generally in this area a washer/dryer are not considered standard, but in cases where I've bought properties where they were included it's nice to be able to offer them to tenants.