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All Forum Posts by: Henry Hsieh

Henry Hsieh has started 7 posts and replied 26 times.

Post: Out of state investing

Henry HsiehPosted
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Quote from @Arn Cenedella:

@Henry Hsieh

To provide a different perspective:

I am NOT a property manager so I have no skin in this game  

But I can tell you, as a GP involved with over 1100 units and $140M AUM, good property management is a big key to successful investment. 

A good or excellent PM is worth every dollar they earn. 

If you are investing out of area and wish to build a portfolio, one needs to offload some tasks. Property management is one of them. 

What’s your time worth?


 I follow your point.  But as your portfolio builds bigger and the property management company charges per property and not per portfolio, I would think having your own team gives you a better sense of control or a better overview of your properties wouldn't it?  This is in addition to cost savings.

My thought coming in is that if I do want to eventually have my own team, wouldn't it be beneficial to get my hands dirty even though it is more work at the start.  If I personally understand the skin in the game first hand, I would think this will help me become a better manager of my team on it in the future right?  Or would this train of thought seem totally not realistic and it is simply better to save the time and offload it to the property management firm as a whole?

Post: Out of state investing

Henry HsiehPosted
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Thank you for your feedback, in Arizona specifically, as an out of state investor (I'm in California) it is the state law that they need someone living physically in Arizona to represent you with your legal affairs.  What are some of the ways that you guys have done to either deal with it or go around it?

Post: Out of state investing

Henry HsiehPosted
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I am currently Investing around the Phoenix area from out of state, it looks like you need someone in Arizona on paper to manage your properties.  Besides getting a property management company around the area to manage that piece and your property, what are some of the alternative ways that you've done that have proven to be helpful?

I don't see 1 or 2 properties through the property management company a problem, but I do see it down the line if I continue to buy in the region where management fees from these property management company is now a fortune.  What are some ways to navigate around it?  Thanks.

Quote from @Loren Clive:

Hi, Henry! I'm a broker and investor on Maui. I've been here 18 years and have 7 properties presently. Would love to connect with you


 Let's connect, love to learn more about your expertise.

Quote from @Michael Smythe:

@Henry Hsieh

You might want to follow the "Deep Dive" series we're doing on our BiggerPockets blog about Metro Detroit cities, City of Detroit Neighborhoods and comparing Metro Detroit to other hotspots investors usually consider:

https://www.biggerpockets.com/member-blogs/3094/99854-deep-dive-into-metro-detroit-cities-ecorse

Our analysis is a template you can follow for any city, but doubt you'll find this much info for any other market in the US.

So, why would you invest remotely anywhere else?

How can we assist you further?

Thank you, the article is informative as I did not think there were pockets such as these within Detroit.

Hi everyone, your next door neighbor from the bay area here.  New to the forum but not completely new to real estate investments.  Love to listen and learn from people who have experiences investing in properties outside of state.  A few spots that I have been looking at so far are Maui, HI / Detroit, MI / Phoenix, AZ .  If you have experiences in those regions, I'm all ears!