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All Forum Posts by: Hedi B.

Hedi B. has started 2 posts and replied 10 times.

Post: 100k profit on 1st flip- now what?

Hedi B.Posted
  • Property Manager
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 4

@Brenna Crowe Congrats!

What did you buy the property for and how much do you anticipate it will sell for? Would love to hear more details about this deal (e.g., type of property, level of rehab, etc.).

Post: List of good multi-family markets

Hedi B.Posted
  • Property Manager
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 4
Originally posted by @Jasmine Hu:

@Charles Seaman hi could you please share 2017 report? I feel most likely the cities on the list will repeat. The key is to see the Change, not the list itself.

Plus for  people who just starts this apt thing,  Very valuable to invest locally even if the return is lower. For me I focus investing my own money , sometime with friends as minor partner. Each partner brings some value, I don’t plan to charge general partner fee yet I do have controlling vote rights.

The 2018 report includes tables that reflect change in ranking from 2017 to 2018 for a number of MSAs. Also, there are a number of cities on the 2018 report that are ranked based on data from as far back as 2011 all the way to 2018, so it looks like performance from prior years has been factored in.


Post: List of good multi-family markets

Hedi B.Posted
  • Property Manager
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 4
Originally posted by @Taylor L.:

I'm one of Joe's coaching clients, and based on my experience researching these factors - you should research the numbers yourself. Government data sources are a good place to start. There are sources that do their own research, which is helpful to back up your research and helpful to present to your investors. 

I’m by nature a do your own research, believe it when you see it kind of guy, so this totally works for me.

Btw, how was your experience being coached with Joe? Any learnings you’re willing to share here that helped you operate at a higher level?
   

Post: List of good multi-family markets

Hedi B.Posted
  • Property Manager
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 4
Originally posted by @Joseph Firmin:

Michael Blank also mentions reports that can provide some of this information. That said - to answer your question - yes. I'd be interested in seeing that data. Thanks!

Hadn’t heard of Michael Blank. Thanks for the info Joseph! 

I found an article on Michael’s website where he recommends looking at employment growth and good returns. For anybody interested, Michael also lists his 12 top markets for multi-family investing in this article. Here’s the link (fyi - this article was published in Aug 2019 - so pretty recent): https://themichaelblank.com/vi...

On another note, Michael shares an interesting statement I noticed to be true in at least one market I looked at: the often hard to justify cost of building B and C class multi family properties.

In Miami, for example, building such a project west of the I-95 (less desirable but cheaper neighborhoods to buy lots) can cost more than what someone has paid for a similar, existing property. You really see this when you recalculate sale price/unit on multi-parcel transfers.
 

Post: List of good multi-family markets

Hedi B.Posted
  • Property Manager
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 4
Originally posted by @Charles Seaman:

@Hedi B. The Milken Institute produces an annual report on the best-performing cities.  It focuses largely on job growth and high-paying jobs, amongst other things.  It doesn't include the supply and demand information, but it can be easily obtained through CoStar like Joe said.  There's a link below to the most recent report if you want to check it out.  The new report will probably come out somewhere around late December.

2018 Best-Performing Cities Report

Thanks for the Milken report Charles! 

Agreed - it would be helpful to layer some absorption rate (and population growth) stats to determine supply and demand.

Post: List of good multi-family markets

Hedi B.Posted
  • Property Manager
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 4

Hi all,

I just listened to BP podcast episode 227 with Joe Fairless. Joe went from a few SFRs to $130M by the time he was 35 years old.

In the episode, Joe unpacks three indicators that help him find "good" multi-family markets. He explains that some of these data points are easier to get access to than others, and based on some very light research this still seems to be the case. 

I personally love finding and putting together useful datasets, GIS maps, and organizing data that lives in different places, especially when the end product means a more insightful and accessible source of information.

My question to you is: if I can bring together the data for the indicators Joe shares and present it in a digestible format (ex: Excel CSV file), would you be interested in a copy of the dataset? 

Here is a summary of the three indicators Joe uses to qualify multi-family markets and a few details he shares about them in episode 227.

1. Unemployment, including how it's trending and vs. national average.

2. Employment diversity. Joe believes no one employer or industry should make up more than 15-20% of jobs. Based on some preliminary research, this data looks fragmented and lives on different county and/or city labor statistic webpages.

3. Supply and demand. Joe recommends looking at absorption rates based on existing and upcoming inventory. He mentions that you may need access to a platform like CoStar or receive this information from your RE agent or a property management company.

My goal is to get as granular and go as wide as possible, offering the data at the city or metro level, and, if it's not too much of hassle, ideally nationwide.

Let me know your thoughts, if you have any questions, suggestions, or if you know where all this data might already exist - which would spare me and possibly others a lot of data wrangling :)

Post: Market & Neighborhood Research/Analysis

Hedi B.Posted
  • Property Manager
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 4

Yardi Matrix if you’re looking to purchase multi-family above 50 units. The property data they have will inform your market research. They offer insight into actual rents for individual buildings, anonymized expense data for multi-fam properties (they’re affiliated with one of the largest accounting softwares for property management companies), sales data, and owner contact info, to name a few things. 

For smaller properties, I’d look at census data and speak to property management companies and agents specialized in the areas you’re looking into. They both have an incentive to help.

Post: I just built a 36 unit apartment complex.

Hedi B.Posted
  • Property Manager
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 4
Thanks George. A few follow up questions:

What was your final cost per buildable sq ft (hard and soft costs)?
Where did you get financing, at what rate and how much cash did you and your partner have to personally invest?

Originally posted by @George Yu:

@Hedi B. thank you! hard to tell for this one since we haven't gotten through our first month so not all bills have come in. but we projected no less than $10,000/month. 

said it somewhere but 14 months

Survey, topo, utilities, sewer verification, flood plain, zoning, variance, etc

Post: I just built a 36 unit apartment complex.

Hedi B.Posted
  • Property Manager
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 4

@George Yu Congratulations on your first multi-family project. A few questions:

1. What can one expect to net per month after building and renting out a project like this (i.e., monthly net profit from rental income after all expenses including loan payments)?

2. What was the timeline on the project from the moment you started looking for a site to fully or near fully occupied?

3. What does your pre-offer due diligence look like?

Thank you

Post: If you buy property, I want to hear from you

Hedi B.Posted
  • Property Manager
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 4

Hi all,

I'm looking to know what is the most important hard-to-find piece of information about a property you need before submitting an offer?

I'm polling the BP community to better understand a) what informational hurdles we share and b) start a discussion to identify where this information is best found.

Please be sure to include what kind of real estate your answer applies to and where (ex: determining if there are existing water & sewer mains in front of a vacant lot in Miami).

Looking forward to everyone's answers.