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All Forum Posts by: Hector Serna

Hector Serna has started 6 posts and replied 41 times.

Post: Just canceled my 3rd deal… time to start over

Hector SernaPosted
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Quote from @Mark F.:
Quote from @Hector Serna:
Quote from @Max Feinberg:

@Hector Serna sounds like some of these things could be resolved/noticed before actually getting under contract


 Looking for advice

Thank you though 

 While he may have been brief, you missed his point which is excellent advice. Chances are you could have caught a few of those items before you went UC, if not all of them. Now that those things have happened to you, when you are walking properties you should go see if those issues are present on future deals.

For example, I got burned on a retaining wall issue. Do you think I now walk any property I check out to see the status of any retaining walls, no matter how well hidden or out of sight they are? You betcha.

From now on, you should be looking in crawlspaces as much as possible, checking tax records for lot sizes and zoning, and if its a short sale or even a vacant home, you're speaking to the realtor and seller about turning on utilities before an offer is made.

Again, these are experiences that you can either learn from and try to mitigate in the future or choose to ignore and get butt hurt when problems come up you didn't forsee. This will dictate your path in REI.


I did not miss the point sir. My post is basically saying, “some things went wrong, I learned from them, what else can I be careful about? What else should I consider and pay attention to”

Im just slowly noticing how some people on here will basically restate your post and say, “damn you messed up, good luck next time!”. You can’t tell me it doesn’t come out as patronizing… yet amusing!

I’m here for the positive reinforcement and advice that’s all.

Thank you! 

Post: Just canceled my 3rd deal… time to start over

Hector SernaPosted
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Quote from @Max Feinberg:

@Hector Serna sounds like some of these things could be resolved/noticed before actually getting under contract


 Looking for advice

Thank you though 

Post: Just canceled my 3rd deal… time to start over

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Quote from @Melania Martinez:

@Hector Serna Another newbie here in the world of RE investing. Best of luck on your deals to come!


 Just another fella coming from nothing, trying to do more although people would consider me successful at this point being only 25 yrs old.

A newbie in RE is RIGHT!

Post: Just canceled my 3rd deal… time to start over

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Quote from @Steve K.:

Just keep plugging away, gotta kiss a lot of toads before you find your prince. Sounds like you dodged a few bullets and learned a few lessons already, and nothing to be ashamed of there. The more real-world, hands-on knowledge you have, the more confidence you'll have in recognizing the right deal when you find it. Keep going forward. 


Means a lot.

Thank you!  

Post: Just canceled my 3rd deal… time to start over

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Quote from @Travis Timmons:

I'll take what may be an unpopular stance with some - you did the right thing by backing out of those deals. You didn't know what you didn't know. I've learned that pain is the best educator. I bet you'll check tax records for double lots, look at foundations and plumbing, and inquire about water being turned on for inspections much sooner on your future deals. 


 Exactly.

Post: Just canceled my 3rd deal… time to start over

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Quote from @Bob Stevens:
Quote from @Hector Serna:

Hey guys,

So I recently got out of my 3rd deal in Cicero, IL (Chicago Land Area). I’ve gone through the process 3 times (Offer accepted, appraisal, inspection) and for some reason something always needs to come up. So it’s time to start looking again. I have faith that it’s all in Gods hands to decide when it’s the best time for this to go fully through, however, I’d like some pointers from the BP community. 
Has anyone else gone through this? What did you do differently? Is it the location I’m trying to work in? The state? The town? Is there something I should consider? 
For the past 7 months I’ve listened to several podcasts and read books.. I truly feel like I just need to execute now to get that hands on experience. I refuse to stay in the “analyzing” stage.
For now, I’m going to take a month or so to readjust, read more books, save more money.

Thank y

You should not even be in contract on these deals. Why did your GC not notice the crawl space issue? I have never hired an inspection co. in all 500 or so of my deals.  The double lot, Ok that is unforeseen, Water not a big deal, if there are leaks you fix them, and simply get a price reduction for a couple K. Even if no price reductions, if a few k kills the deals, it was not a deal to begin with. 

Good luck  

Post: Just canceled my 3rd deal… time to start over

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Quote from @Jaron Walling:

@Hector Serna "and for some reason something always needs to come up" - Can you explain what this means? What was (is) your strategy and what stopped you from closing? 

Everyone has anxiety and stress when buying real estate. What we tend to forget is the risk of NOT buying something. RE, stocks, bonds, mutual funds, it all comes with a level of risk and you have to be comfortable with that risk. You have to be happy with the return you seeks. If you're knowledgeable enough to avoid the pit falls and understand the exit strategy it's time to buy. Time is against you if you don't own any assets. Big or small. 


Hey Jaron,

First deal (MU)- After inspection, in the crawl space, found out foundation of the home was in horrendous condition, on top of that it had plumbing issues. Took a contractor with me and I was looking at 70k-80k in repairs

Second deal (SFH) - Great home, once we got closer to closing, turns out the property was on a double lot. Double lot = 2x property taxes. Skyrocketed my mortgage by $400+.

Third deal (SFH) - Short sale. Water shut off. With inspection day nearing, the seller and town weren't willing to turn the water on for a thorough inspection. I was going to pay $1k to turn it on and on top of that, the bank wasn't willing to negotiate the property price to give me a hand to proceed. Just red flags all around.

I have been investing consistently into the S&P 500 and other “safe” ETFS/Index funds for the past 3 years now. On top of that, I have my 401k building, I have zero debt. I’m just looking to expand beyond that.

Post: Just canceled my 3rd deal… time to start over

Hector SernaPosted
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Hey guys,

So I recently got out of my 3rd deal in Cicero, IL (Chicago Land Area). I’ve gone through the process 3 times (Offer accepted, appraisal, inspection) and for some reason something always needs to come up. So it’s time to start looking again. I have faith that it’s all in Gods hands to decide when it’s the best time for this to go fully through, however, I’d like some pointers from the BP community. 
Has anyone else gone through this? What did you do differently? Is it the location I’m trying to work in? The state? The town? Is there something I should consider? 
For the past 7 months I’ve listened to several podcasts and read books.. I truly feel like I just need to execute now to get that hands on experience. I refuse to stay in the “analyzing” stage.
For now, I’m going to take a month or so to readjust, read more books, save more money.

Thank you.

Post: Offer accepted… and there’s a new dilemma

Hector SernaPosted
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Quote from @Ben Russell:

I don't see this as being a deal breaker.

First, is this a one story house on a crawl space or basement?  If so any plumbing issues are going to be fairly easy to address.  

Second, look everywhere for evidence of leaks. Under sinks, on the ceilings where upstairs bathrooms would be, in the basement/crawl space, etc. If water was leaking, you'll see evidence.

Third, air test the water lines and bring some buckets of water to pour down drians and toilets. You may need to call a plumber.  Although easy, this will be beyond most inspectors. 


 Basement. That’s where the possible 4th room is at too. 

Post: Offer accepted… and there’s a new dilemma

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Quote from @Peter Mckernan:
Quote from @Hector Serna:

Hey guys,

If any of yall have come across my previous post you’ll find that I recently had an offer accepted for a short sale in Cicero, IL. The numbers are as follows.

1959 Build Single family home: 3 bed (possible 4), 1 bath

Home price: 180k (Avg home in the area 240k-270k)

PITI Mortgage: $1,855

Down Payment: $9,000 (5%)

House needs approximately 15k-20k in repairs (A lot being cosmetic)

I recently learned that in order for me to rent it out, I needed to either put 20% down or live in it for a year.

I’m currently leaning towards living in it and repeating in my 2nd property in the future.

When I originally went to check out the house I learned that the water was shut off due to the bill not being paid. During the process, I was originally told that we can possibly get the seller to pay the water bill or that we can ask the town to turn it on so that I can get a proper inspection upon getting my offer approved. Today I learned that the seller is not willing to pay and the town is not willing to turn on the water until the bill is fully paid.
My realtor relayed we can either pull out of the deal or I can pay the water bill to perform the inspection thoroughly.

I’m looking at paying $1k+ for a water bill of a property that’s not mine I’m not even sure if I’ll go through with after the inspection (if worse defects are found).

I don’t know what to do.

thank you.



I would take another thought on this one.. Probably not paying for things, but can you get a better deal for it? Looks like with the comps/ARV you are getting a deal, so this might be where you can make up some cash.. Is it "as-is" or can you negotiate after inspection?

It’s as is. I initially offered 150k, expecting a counter offer. They then responded saying they’re were not going to negotiate the price. 180k firm, no credits.