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All Forum Posts by: Georgee Gilbert

Georgee Gilbert has started 10 posts and replied 51 times.

You guys are give me much to think about. I like the idea of good credit and actually looking at their history and income. Yes, I will make sure I look at the whole pic. I've only rented to those with 700's and I've never had a problem. They have actually been great tenant. The one tenant a PM placed with bad credit was a nightmare. My desire is responsible tenants. 

Originally posted by @Thomas S.:

B working class I would never go below 650. I expect my tenants to be financially responsible regardless of their income level. Credit score should not be expected to mirror a tenants income level. Setting low standards for your tenants is only setting yourself up for failure by increasing your risk threshold.

Although my minimum requirement is 650 the majority of my tenants are well above 700, many over 800.

I care less about my tenants income level than I do about their money management history. The lower a applicants credit score the higher potential risk a landlord exposes themselves to.

Credit score is obviously only one factor and some with scores over 650 are still a high risk based on their credit to debt ratio. I have reject applicants that have good scores that are living at their maximum credit limit.

 Thanks! Great input. 

Post: Commercial property purchase due diligence

Georgee GilbertPosted
  • Lathrup Village, MI
  • Posts 51
  • Votes 6

It's a free standing building  that's currently a salon. The plan is  to lease it out to a salon owner. Is 911 sq ft with a basement. What information/documents should I request from the current owner to base some of  my numbers off when analyst the deal? Thanks

Post: Commercial property purchase due diligence

Georgee GilbertPosted
  • Lathrup Village, MI
  • Posts 51
  • Votes 6
Originally posted by @Frank Chin:

What type of commercial property? It ranges from free standing stores large and small (for supermarkets to dry cleaners), small strips with several stores, small to large office buildings, mixed use, like a property with stores downstairs and apartments upstairs.

If your just talking stores, I looked at a number of single empty ones and you'll have to figure out why they're empty. Is it because people are going to newer strips nearby? What helped me was I was also looking for laundromats to buy, working with a store broker whose also a commercial realtor. One store, rented to a laundromat didn't do all that well because of traffic patterns, It was just awkward to drive to.

I was looking at a small strip with three stores, all rented, and one to a restaurant. My wife was in city planning, and knew the head of city planning whom she used to car pool with. Decided to drop in and pay him a visit, and we spoke about looking at a strip in town. He knew right away which one it is and asked if the seller mentioned anything about the new rules for providing parking depending on the number of seats in the restaurant. We answered "no".  He said they let the current strip landlord and restaurant tenant slide, but the new owners will have to pave the empty lot behind the strip to provide more parking. The town already spoke to the commercial property owner next store about an easement to get in and out for the additional parking. The sellers mentioned they knew nothing about it.

For stores rented to dry cleaners, are there any contamination issues which greatly diminishes the value and imposes liabilities for current and past owners?

There are insurance issues. My dad owned a mixed use properties, and commercial insurance varied greatly, so if he rented the store as an office, the insurance on it could be five time greater if it was rented to a restaurant.

These are just a few examples. You can do very well with commercial but there's a lot more issues to look into. 

Great story! I wish you well. Congrats 😉

Post: Commercial property purchase due diligence

Georgee GilbertPosted
  • Lathrup Village, MI
  • Posts 51
  • Votes 6

When purchasing commercial property what are your due diligence? 

How do you determine if it's a good deal?

How much does due diligence cost out of pocket? 

What steps can you take before spending money to determine if its worth your time and money? 

Is it best to use a commercial realor or will your buyer's agent do fine? 

What should you look out for and avoid at all cost? 

Post: Commercial Real Estate Purchase

Georgee GilbertPosted
  • Lathrup Village, MI
  • Posts 51
  • Votes 6

I feel like I totally screwed this thread up. Lol! I'm trying to respond to each  individual reply.  Please ignore the repeats. 😬

Post: Commercial Real Estate Purchase

Georgee GilbertPosted
  • Lathrup Village, MI
  • Posts 51
  • Votes 6

Ok, I'm thinking about buying a building that is currently a salon and has been for over 40 yrs. I would buy it and lease it out to someone who wants to open a salon. It needs some updates but I'm thinking the tenant would handle that. It's a nice solid build but I don't know a thing about commercial real estate. I only own residential properties. Also, I'm a hairstylist and no I don't want to operate a salon but I'm thinking worst case, I could one day, if I had to own and operate the build.

Post: Commercial Real Estate Purchase

Georgee GilbertPosted
  • Lathrup Village, MI
  • Posts 51
  • Votes 6
Originally posted by @Doug Smith:

Tell us more about what you are wanting to do? It would help us answer your questions. 

Post: Commercial Real Estate Purchase

Georgee GilbertPosted
  • Lathrup Village, MI
  • Posts 51
  • Votes 6

My original post didn't include the 2nd paragraph. I'm still learning how to maneuver on this forum. 

Anywho, great questions.  This commercial build was not a part of my goal. My focus is residential. I so happen to see the build and  was thinking it may be a great opportunity. If it is a great opportunity 🤔 To be honest, I don't know the 1st  thing about commercial investment. I've been researching  but still not sure where to start. Any suggestions on books or sites   would be great. 

The asking price is $169,000. It's 911 sq ft plus a full finished basement and parking is great. The realtor said only one person was interested in purchasing since September and they withdrew and all other offers are for leasing but the owner is not interested they are really motivated to sale it.  

I have a little money set aside  but I'm hoping to obtain a loan. I'm not sure how to start my due diligence. That's what this post is for. Please advise.