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All Forum Posts by: Geof Greeneisen

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Post: New To Bigger Pockets!

Geof GreeneisenPosted
  • Investor
  • Howell, MI
  • Posts 202
  • Votes 52

Hi Brianna,

Welcome to BP! There are a bunch of us from Michigan on here. Feel free to reach out and let us know how we can help.

Post: Michigan - Investor Landscape

Geof GreeneisenPosted
  • Investor
  • Howell, MI
  • Posts 202
  • Votes 52

I’ve invested in office buildings in Livingston County, which is between Detroit and Lansing. Occupancy and rents have been strong, however I’ve noticed lately the banks we work with have been less responsive to multi tenant office investments. They remain concerned about how COVID and working from home will impact occupancy. I think it’s purely an office issue, banks appear to have a continued appetite for multi-fam, industrial, self storage, even retail.

Post: Starting out & Very overwhelmed

Geof GreeneisenPosted
  • Investor
  • Howell, MI
  • Posts 202
  • Votes 52

Hi @Kristi Tietz,


Congrats on making the decision to get started! Whenever I analyze a new market I try learning everything I can about the area. Narrow in on a specific area that you’re interested in, then benchmark values in the area. To start, stay within one city and watch the prices. You’ll actually be able to see the flips before and after, estimate improvement costs and after repair profits they made. I’m located in Livingston County but most familiar with Royal Oak, Ferndale and Hazel Park for flips and rentals. How we handle market due diligence is the same regardless of location.

Feel free to connect, I’m happy to share our investment model with any new local investor, for what it’s worth.

Best of luck!

Post: Path to become a commercial real estate developer?

Geof GreeneisenPosted
  • Investor
  • Howell, MI
  • Posts 202
  • Votes 52

Hi @Michael Kim, I got into commercial development via the commercial brokerage route after college. If I were going the direct route, I’d research the 20 largest developers in Michigan and approach them about an intern position. Most are located in the Southfield area, however there are several in Ann Arbor. Reach out to: Oxford, Promanus, Peter Allen, Wickfield, all in A2. Most of those will be smaller shops that provide brokerage and property management in addition to development. 

Post: Investor Friendly Realtor, Livingston County, MI

Geof GreeneisenPosted
  • Investor
  • Howell, MI
  • Posts 202
  • Votes 52

Hi @Zachery Peterson, good to see others from Livingston County on here. Love to connect with others locally, I’m in Howell as well. Let me know if you have time to chat.

Post: Hazel Park Michigan and Rental Neighborhoods

Geof GreeneisenPosted
  • Investor
  • Howell, MI
  • Posts 202
  • Votes 52

Hi Andrew, I’ve had SF properties in HP since ‘08-‘09. I think I’ve only had a couple vacancies during that timeframe. Tenants tend to stay once they move in. Landlord licenses are required @ $300 every 2 years. Our rents range from $850 for 700sf (2 bdrm, no basement, no garage) to $1,200 for 1,000sf. All are north of 9 Mile. Our taxes average $1,200-$1,400/yr. Values have continued to rise as new construction prices are being supported. A typical vacancy will receive no less than 40 inquiries the first week of advertising, 15 will show up the day of showing, and I’ll get 5 good applications to run. I only set aside one day to schedule showings.

We have SFH in Ferndale and RO as well. RO is easiest to work with as their LL licenses only pertain to exterior condition. Ferndale is good to work with also, as they are consistent in their inspections. Both of those cities have higher prices, both rent and acquisition. HP has a great inspector to work with, but don't let your license lapse as the violation ticket comes with a misdemeanor charge. I'd say it's a great market that will continue to appreciate.

Best of luck to you!

Post: Livingston County MI Meetup

Geof GreeneisenPosted
  • Investor
  • Howell, MI
  • Posts 202
  • Votes 52

Great idea! Later July best for me but I’d try to make either dates work.

Post: Auction property and Subject to Redemption - Michigan

Geof GreeneisenPosted
  • Investor
  • Howell, MI
  • Posts 202
  • Votes 52

Hi @Roy Gutierrez, I assume you’re talking about buying at sheriff sales, not tax sales. At tax sales, the redemption rights have been extinguished (typically). At sheriff sales in Michigan there is a minimum 6 month redemption period, 12 months if the mortage has been paid down to less than 2/3 the original mortgage or is considered a farm property.

Each foreclosure notice spells out the terms of redemption such as the interest you can charge on the note. After purchasing the note at sheriff sale, you will need to file a buyer affidavit claiming your rights as the note holder which spells out your fees and contact information. Then you wait.

Here’s the kicker, assuming there was equity in the deal, there are a number of ways for other investors to step in and purchase your position after the sale. Yes, the mortgagor may redeem the note. In 2009, they never did, in 2018 I’m seeing this occur more and more. But this isn’t your real problem. The mortgagor can sell their redemption rights, even for as little as $1 (usually $500-$5,000 on the notes I track). So your competition might not be the bidders you see on the courthouse steps, but rather the investors talking to the mortgagor behind the scenes who will be redeeming the note in the 5th month.

Also, you will find realtors attending the sale and you’ll see them writing down the purchase prices. They then contact the owners after the sale to try to get the listing for 6 months.

There are certainly nuances to the process that will increase your likelihood of ending up with the house after 6 months, but if you’re just starting out the odds are not in your favor. I would recommend going to the sale each week for 3 months. You’ll learn who the buyers are, who the realtors are, and start to understand some of the strategies. Best of luck to you!

Post: New BiggerPockets Member/ Real Estate Investor from Michigan

Geof GreeneisenPosted
  • Investor
  • Howell, MI
  • Posts 202
  • Votes 52

Hi @Nathan Buia, welcome to BP! You’re in a great location to start your investing career. I live about an hour away from you but if I can help in any way I’m happy to do so, just let me know.

Best of luck to you!

Post: New Member in Washtenaw/Livingston County

Geof GreeneisenPosted
  • Investor
  • Howell, MI
  • Posts 202
  • Votes 52

Hi @Eric Meldrum, welcome to BP! I am in Howell but have properties in Livingston County as well as south Oakland County. If you’re getting into wholesaling I’d love to meet up sometime and let you know what deals I pursue in case you run across something interesting. Feel free to reach out.

Best of luck to you!