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All Forum Posts by: Frank R.

Frank R. has started 6 posts and replied 23 times.

Post: What to look for in a townhome/condo house hack (Denver)

Frank R.Posted
  • Denver, CO
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 10

Hey BP,

I'm interested in acquiring my next property and would like my next deal to be a house hack instead of another OOS rental property. I'm currently in Boulder, CO but would like to buy a townhome/condo in the west Denver area(arvada/westminster). Live for a year or 2 and have it be a normal rental when I move out.

As I start looking at properties, I'm wondering what are some good things to look for when searching for a townhome in terms of layout plans/location any gotchas etc. I'd like to hear if anyone has personal experiences with a 3bd/2ba type place vs the larger 5+ bedroom deals.

Post: House Hack vs. Out of state investing

Frank R.Posted
  • Denver, CO
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 10

What did you end up deciding?

@Tyler Markvluwerundefined

I am in a similar position in the Denver - Boulder Metro area. I have an OOS rental in indy that brings me about $250/month cash flow after all expenses including PM. I live with room mates in Boulder and have cheap(for here rent $695/month).

Still weighing the options on another OOS property in the indy area, or house hacking locally. Which would 'save' me $695/month in rent, but factoring opportunity costs of missing out on $250/month also carries some weighting.

Post: First OOS investment in Indy

Frank R.Posted
  • Denver, CO
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 10

No other fees. Taxes were $1580 for 2018 and $1638 for 2019.

Post: Targeting an Out Of State area

Frank R.Posted
  • Denver, CO
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 10

the null values are a bug from an update. the signature is looking for "broker" or whatever you have saved..it can't find it so it displays null.

https://www.techopedia.com/definition/5539/null

I typically use a local broker and roofstock.com

Post: First OOS investment in Indy

Frank R.Posted
  • Denver, CO
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 10

Investment Info:

Single-family residence buy & hold investment in Indianapolis.

Purchase price: $94,000

Cash invested: $21,562

My first SFH investment purchased through roofstock.com, currently rented at 975/month until June. Hoping they gre-lease

Why I like it
Great first property to get my feet wet in this industry.
It was an easy process w/ roofstock
I bought in a good B class neighboorhood with 3bed/2bath.
It meets the 1% rule

Mistakes made.
Probably paid too much for it, not a home run, but a base hit.
Didn't know their was an HOA
Probably could have done a bit more due diligence

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

Living in Boulder, average homes are 600k, it would have taken me forever to save up a down payment in this market. I liked the Indy area because it was affordable, strong rent rates for the purchase price and I feel like the city is doing a good job with managing its money and it has a bright future.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

I found it through roofstock.com. An online rental property marketplace that I found out about through listenmoneymatters.com.

It was listed for 105,000 I put in a low offer and worked my way up until we agreed on a price. My max price was 97,000, we agreed on 96,500. It appraised at 91,500 and we met in the middle at 94,000. I probably overpaid for this, which is my biggest mistake. But with the recent appreciation and principal paydown, I now have some equity in the property.

How did you finance this deal?

I did a conventional 20% down loan. I used trumortgage which is what roofstock.com had recommended on their site. I didn't really look at any other lender, which is probably another mistake on my part. In the future I will go to at least 3.  I got an interest rate of 4.375% in December 2017..which I'm pretty happy with.

How did you add value to the deal?

I didn't add anything. I also just realized that the kitchen does not have a dishwasher, so I may be adding one in at the next tenant turnover. I will consult my property manager at the next turn if it is normal for the area to have one or not.

What was the outcome?

It has been rented the the same tenant that I have inherited for $975/month. Lease is up July 2019 and I hope they renew, it has been pretty smooth sailing thus far 16 months in.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

Learned what people really mean when they say 'you make money when you buy'. Also the importance for doing your due diligence. Their were a few things I noticed after I closed. It had an HOA, no dishwasher and backed out to a busy street.

Also learned how much of a premium roofstock is. I will plan to visit the Indy area this summer July 2019 and build a local team. Would need a lender, property manager and real estate agent that has worked with investors If anyone has recommendations I am all ears.

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

roofstock.com was probably the easiest it could get buying a home and hassle free with a full-time job. It may not be the most efficient, but it sure was convenient.

Post: First OOS investment in Indy

Frank R.Posted
  • Denver, CO
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 10

Investment Info:

Single-family residence buy & hold investment in Indianapolis.

Purchase price: $94,000
Cash invested: $21,562

My first SFH investment purchased through roofstock.com, currently rented at 975/month until June. Hoping they re-lease

Why I like it
Great first property to get my feet wet in this industry.
It was an easy process w/ roofstock
I bought in a good B class neighboorhood with 3bed/2bath.
It meets the 1% rule

Mistakes made.
Probably paid too much for it, not a home run, but a base hit.
Didn't know their was an HOA, but it still cash flows even so.
Probably could have done a bit more due diligence

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

Living in Boulder, average homes are 600k, it would have taken me forever to save up a down payment in this market. I liked the Indy area because it was affordable, strong rent rates for the purchase price and I feel like the city is going a good job with managing its money and it has a bright future economy wise.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

I found it through roofstock.com. An online rental property marketplace that I found out about through listenmoneymatters.com.

It was listed for 105,000 I put in a low offer and worked my way up until we agreed on a price. My max price was 97,000, we agreed on 96,500. It appraised at 91,500 and we met in the middle at 94,000. I probably overpaid for this, which is my biggest mistake. But with the recent appreciation and principal paydown, I now have some equity in the property.

How did you finance this deal?

Yup. I did a conventional 20% down loan. I used trumortgage which is what roofstock.com had recommended on their site. I didn't really look at any other lender, which is probably another mistake on my part. In the future I will go to at least 3.
I got an interest rate of 4.375% in December 2017..which I'm pretty happy with.

How did you add value to the deal?

I didn't add anything. I also just realized that the kitchen does not have a dishwasher, so I may be adding one in at the next tenant turnover. I will consult my property manager at the next turn if it is normal for the area to have one or not.

What was the outcome?

It has been rented the the same tenant that I have inherited for $975/month. Lease is up July 2019 and I hope they renew, it has been pretty smooth sailing thus far 16 months in.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

Learned what people really mean when they say 'you make money when you buy'. Also the importance for doing your due diligence. Their were a few things I noticed after I closed. It had an HOA, no dishwasher and backed out to a busy street.

Also learned how much of a premium roofstock is. I will plan to visit the Indy area this summer July 2019 and build a local team. Would need a lender, property manager and real estate agent that has worked with investors.

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

roofstock.com was probably the easiest it could get buying a home and hassle free with a full-time job. It may not be the most efficient, but it sure was convenient.

Post: Investing in Indianapolis, IN

Frank R.Posted
  • Denver, CO
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 10

For what its worth. I have had a decent experience as an out of state investor. I bought a single family home for $94,000 through roofstock.com in December 2017. It rents for $975 and for the past 15 months, I have had no issues.

It is in the Warren/Lawrence township. The tenant released until July 1st 2019. I plan to up the rent at that time to $1k/month and take a trip out there to network/possibly buy another buy and hold cash flow property. Looking for something around the same as my current one if anyone has anything.

Post: Roofstock Case Study

Frank R.Posted
  • Denver, CO
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 10

Update on my roofstock progress. 

The property that they put on their marketplace didn't appraise. It was listed on their site for $85,000, I was able to negotiate with the seller for a purchase price of $83,000. The appraisal came in at $55,000. Roofstock did some additional negotiating and the seller agreed to lower the price to $78,000.

I would of had to put in the additional money to reach the purchase price to close with the lender. All in all I'm out $415 marketplace fee, $650 appraisal fee and a $20 wire transfer and a bunch of my time.  I thought they were priced fairly on their site, but apparently mine was not. I haven't been able to recover any of the funds thus far. I personally wouldn't reccommend, but I'm hoping that I'm an outlier.

Post: Roofstock Case Study

Frank R.Posted
  • Denver, CO
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 10

@Jason G. I have the same experience. I got the lease right after I signed the PSA. Currently got confirmation that the title company received my wire and waiting to hear back from the lender I've been pre-approved from. I'm using tru mortage and also realprotect.

Post: Roofstock Case Study

Frank R.Posted
  • Denver, CO
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 10

Great review. I am currently under contract with a roofstock property in indianapolis as of yesterday. So far everything has been smooth.