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All Forum Posts by: Frank S.

Frank S. has started 105 posts and replied 853 times.

Post: Prospective Chicago Investor: Feedback on this Analysis

Frank S.Posted
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  • Chicago, IL
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Originally posted by @Dinardo Rodriguez:
Did not even notice the small bedrooms, thank you for the feedbacck. Why would you recommend a standard loan over an FHA loan (?) My thinking was that the lower downpayment would allow me to save as much of my cash as possible (to keep as high of a cash reserve as possible). 


Originally posted by @Frank S.:

Your purchase price seems off. At $1,200  rents, if you can even get that much in LV, you will be looking at $330k purchase price.  $250k will land you at $800s.

That listing has very small bedrooms.  You will not hit $1200.

Taxes are a tad high. 

You need to ve prepared for high CapEx, the "rehabs" in the area are really bad.


I would recommend going standard not FHA, and gave a good cash reserve otherwise you will be in trouble

A few notes,

Standard loan: Less fees, better chance at being considered.  Otherwise,  you need to overpay. You compete against cash or standard.


Save more.  You need cash for emergency repairs. The rehabs in LV are horrible. Don't do it if you don't have the money,  don't drink the low money down kool-aid. Otherwise, I'll be picking up your building as a foreclosure.

Calc. Add $230/month for water, sewer, and garbage on a two flat. You pay this. 

I bought at great prices in LV. Current prices are absurd,  the asking prices do not justify the low returns and headaches.  This area will never be Pilsen. Prices may remain high for a while. 

Finally,  go see the buildings.   Read the areas for gang activity. It changes by the block. Learn about construction costs. All contractors are busy and costs are high. 

Good luck,

Post: Prospective Chicago Investor: Feedback on this Analysis

Frank S.Posted
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Your purchase price seems off. At $1,200  rents, if you can even get that much in LV, you will be looking at $330k purchase price.  $250k will land you at $800s.

That listing has very small bedrooms.  You will not hit $1200.

Taxes are a tad high. 

You need to ve prepared for high CapEx, the "rehabs" in the area are really bad.


I would recommend going standard not FHA, and gave a good cash reserve otherwise you will be in trouble

Post: Ethics Around Reducing Tax Liability

Frank S.Posted
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The REI savings are peanuts in comparison to the current corporate welfare system. There is no such thing as tax loopholes, they exist by design. Keep that in mind. No need to sweat it.

REI has benefits, but are exaggerated. For instance, imagine a rental unit $27,500 kitchen renovation that will be depreciated over 27.5 years, $1K per year. Well, your savings are a whopping 14% (this is the typical effective tax bracket for most Americans). Will you feel guilty for $140 savings per year? These "juicy savings" are destroyed by inflation at 2.5% per year (unless is this crazy year). So, your savings over 27.5 years are peanuts. Then, unless you die, you will face recapture tax at 25% flat and this does not account for inflation over your cost basis. Finally, you always have property taxes, maintenance, interest on your loans, etc.

Read NOLO Tax Law & Deductions for Landlords a few times, then you will truly realize that the savings are not as they advertise.  The savings are good, but with many limitations.   You won't see incredible savings unless you are mega rich.

Finding financial freedom through REI, is likely a fallacy unless your are aiming to lower income. REI is a business. It is still a job. It will consume your time. As you can see through this platform, creating a successful blog, selling tons of books and advertising is more profitable than REI.

You can always volunteer your time for not for profits if that makes you feel better. However, your immediate group of people will benefit the most,  Focus on your family, kids, and friends.

Update: read Capital in the Twenty-First Century

Post: Chicago logan square rental market

Frank S.Posted
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Originally posted by @Alex L.:

Seeing wide spread rent reductions while 2-3 units buildings are selling at $600-700k. What’s the catch? 3bed/1bed only going for $1800/month and 2bed/1bed is around $1400/month…

There is no catch.  That's Chicago's market.  

Chicago is a great place to live, work, offers higher income options,  world class entertainment, fine dining,  theaters,  arts, etc.  You pay for the amenities and the diversity in culture. It comes with high taxes, like any other large city.  

Exclusive and expensive areas are for large capital investment projects. Combined use, condos, 1.5M flips, etc.

For cash flow, you need C and D areas unless you have a lot of cash (B areas) and all you need is tax shelter and inflation control.  

Post: Lead Abatement/ De-lead

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 What do you mean de lead? Plumbing water pipes or paint?

Can you encapsulate the paint instead?

Post: Does a solar panel add value to a property?

Frank S.Posted
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Originally posted by @Isham Zabala:

Does a solar panel add value to a property? Or does it depend on certain things? Thank you!

 No. 20 year payback. You need a new roof to start.  Do it for your home to enjoy doing something good for hge planet.

Post: Replacing windows in a 120 years property

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Originally posted by @Tal Shachar:

Hey there,

Hope I can learn from all the experienced landlords here...

I just had my inspection completed, for an investment townhome I'm interested in Baltimore, MD.
The house is ~120 years old, and besides the expected wear and tear, it is in a good shape overall

However, most of the windows as "past their EOL" and also, when opened, they do not stay up.
The house inspector told me that this could be a liability issue, if something happens to a tenant/child, due to a window shuts down on them.

Two questions, if I may - 

  1. 1. Does anyone know how much does it cost to replace these old house windows? I think their size is not "Standard"
  2. 2. Should I really be concerned about this "liability" issue?

This is my first investment property, so I'm not sure what to do with this info...

Thanks a lot for any insight!

Fix them. They are old growth wood, it is a shame to trash them.

My house is from 1906, I did a top of the line restoration on some of the windows, but you don't have to go to the extremes on a rental.

Read The Crafstman blog and watch a few videos.  They can be repaired, over and over. The hardest part may be the paint, but if no excessive paint was applied, it's easy. You can encapsulate the paint and isolate with metal winterizing copper.

If they wont stay open, it means you can open them, great news! Replace the sash chord and you are set. Sash chords are $40 for 100 feet, 1 hour per window.

If you dont pay for heat,  don't worry about the single pane glass. Add storm windows, if you care. Single panes are R0.6, double pane are only R2.0, it is not a huge difference. There is no payback on new windows. 

Replacement windows for rentals, budget type, are garbage.

Post a photo and I'll give you some insight.

Good luck,

Post: Is one rental worth it?

Frank S.Posted
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Originally posted by @William Hutchinson:

It seems that rentals are only worth it when you can do the domino effect to get a bunch of houses and be on the line for a bunch of debt. I have a full time job, and can get a house for 50k and get about 9000 in rent per month. From calculations and other research, it looks like I’d make about 15%. That is good, but it’s a lot more work and risk than buying an index fund that should average about 10%. (Also the rent would be taxed around 25% because of my tax bracket, and it seems like depreciation and other write offs would only cover 3 or 4K each year)

Is my math off? Or is it silly to just have 1 rental property (paid in cash). The numbers just haven’t looked good enough (or about even) for the risk and extra work.



Over the long haul, index is more like 7%. Add bonds and you are at 5%, really good, zero effort, dividends, liquid, etc.

A tax bracket may be 24%, but that is not an effective tax bracket. Most Americans are at 14%. 

One property may not worth the hassle for the little money back. Try it as a test, but recall the recapture tax.  50k/900 month is good.

Post: Removed Property from Market and Schedule E

Frank S.Posted
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Originally posted by @Natalie Kolodij:

If there was no attempt to rent it it wans't a business. 

There are no business deductions. 

They should talk to their tax professional. 

Thanks. Understood. It's parked until the next season. 

Post: Terminated contract due to inspection report

Frank S.Posted
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Originally posted by @Bryce Renicker:

Hey BP community,

Just looking for a little insight / encouragement after my first deal fell through. Im in Chicago, looking to purchase a 2 flat in the Pilsen area. 


I had a 2 flat under contract at 360K with a 3.5% down FHA financing (approved for up to 400K.) I got cold feet after the inspection revealed issues in the bottom unit including the 2 gas space heaters not functioning (going into winter), the flooring caving into a sinkhole in the kitchen without the ability to determine cause, and all the drains outside leading to the sewer were collapsed causing fear of flooding. (the bottom unit is set below the street level although still open all the way around so not a true garden unit). These were the biggest issues on a long list of others including many of the appliances not working and mechanicals way past their lifespan. My real estate agent basically telling me that at that price range anything I find is going to be very distressed and I need to come in with cash reserves to do a lot of rehab. Unfortunately I was trying to house hack my way into real estate with minimal cash reserve. Am I just trying to get in too soon ? Is the Chicago market just really that tough? I plan to keep looking, fighting the urge now to give up and go back to renting for another year.

The market is too expensive and construction costs are high in Chicago. The rent numbers don't make much sense to me. This is probably not what you want to hear.

Honestly,  I would recommend you regroup and forget about investment properties in Chicago / house hacking - at least in good areas,  and Pilsen is fun. There is nothing on the market that excites me, the returns are too low and the risks are too high.  For higher returns you need war zones, I don't care about that.    You can make money flipping high end properties, but not so much as a landlord right now.

If you want a home,  buy a good building in a decent area, buy as much as you can afford and forget about the price.  Buy a three flat and get your tenants soften the blow.  Build equity and enjoy the ride until the market turns, if it ever does.  Save a few bucks, If possible.

However, renting is not bad. It is cheaper to rent in nice areas than to own. You are not burning or throwing away money. It's simply matter of consumption.

Good luck