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All Forum Posts by: Fran Arti

Fran Arti has started 8 posts and replied 28 times.

Im not in the US yet but I will start MF investing in the upcoming months. A question I have is If I can opt for a Freddie Mac/Fannie Mae loan being US non resident.

P.S: I can find somebody to co-sign the loan that have the experience, credit and track record needed.

Thanks

Post: Michael Blank Mentoring?

Fran ArtiPosted
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Hi, mate, do you know whats included in that money? For how long are that service provided?

Originally posted by @Jesse Dickens:

I'm pretty sure it's 30k. 

Thanks! The confusion is gone ;)

Originally posted by @Immanuel Sibero:

@Fran Arti

Forget the video, it is misleading when people (even very experienced investors) say a value add project is when you purchase a property, increase the cap rate, and then sell it for a profit. I wish they would stop saying that because it confuses a lot of people trying to understand cap rate. A classic value add project is when you purchase a property, increase the NOI, and then sell it for a profit. So your effort to add value is by doing something to NOI not doing something to cap rate. So what do you do with NOI? You increase it! How do you increase it? You increase revenue, OR decrease expenses, OR both, that's it!! So what do you with cap rate??? Well... Nothing! Who cares!

When I hear people say "cap rate", I pay attention to which cap rate they are referring to. Many investors (even syndicators) may not even realize which cap rate they're talking about. There is the "property" cap rate, then there is the "market" cap rate! The property cap rate is the one that many investors calculate every year by taking the NOI of their property and divide that by the original purchase price of the property (pretty useless, IMO). On the other hand the market cap rate is a measure of how much investors in a particular market are willing to pay for a particular type of property at a given time. Sometimes, you hear this market cap rate referred to as "market sentiment". It's a measure of how desirable/appealing the properties are to the investors in that particular market (think California).

If you refer to the chart above, I listed two kinds of cap rate (propCap Rate and mktCap Rate). propCap Rate is simply NOI/Purchase Price. mktCap Rate is, again, a measure of market sentiment and can only be obtained by talking to the local market experts (i.e. commercial bankers/brokers, property managers, etc). The point here is you don't calculate this cap rate! It is market driven and you have NO control over it. In the chart above, I'm assuming the "market" cap rate to stay the same at 5%.

So let's say you buy the property with $100,000 NOI in year one. You would have to pay $2M because NOI is $100,000 and market cap rate is 5%, in other words properties are trading at 5CAP (we will assume market cap rate stays at 5CAP). Let's say you're a syndicator with a bag full of tricks and are able to increase NOI to $150,000 in year 2 (wouldn't that be nice!). Well in year two you calculate your property cap rate to be $150,000/2,000,000 which equals to 7.5%. But remember the "market" cap rate has its own movements! It could stay the same at 5% (which I'm assuming here) or it could go higher or lower... again this depends on the market (i.e. market sentiment). In this example, if you were to sell the property, then you would likely sell it by taking your NOI divide it by the "market" cap rate - $150,000/5% = $3,000,000.

The above example is a classic example of value add! Now you could say I have increased my cap rate (i.e. propCap Rate) from 5.0% to 7.5% but it's highly misleading because people may be thinking "market" cap rate which in this example stays the same at 5% (5CAP). What I have really done is increasing my NOI, in fact I really don't care that much about my property cap rate (propCap Rate). I could take off that propCap Rate line in the chart above and everything would still make sense. Hope this helps.

Cheers... Immanuel

Thanks! Totally understood

Thanks for the great answers. Duly noted.

Yesterday I was watching a Grant Cardone Video were he said that if he purchases a 6 cap property, then with value play can move this cap rate up to 8, for example and I dont understand this. Im confused because (as I understand) when you add value to a property, its price should go up, so the cap rate moves down because its formula ( Price= NOI/ Cap Rate). Maybe is he talking about returns? I dont know. Now, Im more confused... I have been trying to see the video again to post the reference here.

@Mike S. Thanks, man. Love your answers, you guys.

Hi, guys:

I have several questions that I dont get right at the moment. Im doing a bunch of projections and calculations with a variety of scenarios to get confident enough to buy my first deal. With this my questions are:

- When it comes to calculate the exit cap rate of a property, how is it calculated? Heard that brokers can give you and estimate and heard (Justin Kivel, Breaking into CRE - Youtube Channel) that the industry standart is to add +0,1% cap rate during your holding period) and Im confused. How I can know the cap average in my area for my type of asset/class?

- Then, in terms of appreciation vs cap rates, in my deal analysis simulator, I must fill an average % of appreciation per year. If I bought at 1M, the asset will appreciate 5% a year during 4 years, then the final value, appreciated is 1.215M but I think I have to take into consideration factors like NOI, cash flow after taxes, the "calculated" cap rate at resale, economic occupancy, % vacancy, etc, to have the big picture and look at it with a next buyers eye.

Thanks for your time, have a great sunday a week ahead.


@Jason Wray thanks. This time was all cash, if both parties agrees, then go to the notary public for closing, no LOI, no purchase agreement. Hre, Notary Public´s function, is, among others, review all documents and verify their compliance.

Have a great sunday

Yesterday a somebody told me that he could have bought an apartment building in my city during the lockdown with almost 30% discount because the buyer needed liquidity urgently. This rose up a question in my head. I though about two options. Lets say that property´s value is $1M so the purchase price is 700k, paying all cash. The 2 options are:

- Buy it all cash and enjoy its cashflow and looking to finance it and cash out to have liquidity to invest in another option, having the building as warranty.

- Buy it all cash, get rid of tenants (they are on month to month leases), rehab it entirely, get rented again 100% (higher rents) and get financing, taking advantage of the increase in value/higher rents.

Is this savvy enough? What would you do in this scenario?

Thanks