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All Forum Posts by: Floris V.

Floris V. has started 4 posts and replied 14 times.

Post: Need input from MTR landlords!

Floris V.
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I just bought my first Duplex and had both units rented before my first payment was due. One through Airbnb and one through FurnishedFinder. Im quite disappointed with FurnishedFinder so far. I had them listed on Zillow as well and received only one inquiry but I'll put them on there again whenever they are free. Both are 3 months but probably longer. So far I have not had any struggles luckily but I'm sure they will come, likely it will be finding tenants that can actually pay what these homes are worth, I have been getting crap lowball leads through FF.

Post: Midterm contract with construction company

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thank you so much! That’s super helpful information. I ended up directly contracting with the tenants as they will be paying the rent themselves. Nice one on the energy clause! I’ll add that next time. 


Quote from @Miguel Del Mazo:

Congratulations.  In our MTRs, we've really seen a lot of success with renting to construction crews passing through our neck of the woods. 

I know the question is mainly focused on what sorts of special protections you will need as a landlord with a lease as opposed to a longer-term AirBnB booking, so let me answer that first.  You should use a state-specific lease that is clear regarding the start and end dates, the monthly rent, the fees that will be charged (ex. pets) and those that may be charged (ex late fee), the amount of the security deposit, and a clear list of rules associated with the property (no smoking inside is a big one as are rules related to parking). Since electricity and water is included in our rent, we also have a clause stating that if the monthly bill doubles compared to the month-comparable bill from the prior year, then the excess will be assessed as a fee. It's never been a problem, but with the rise of cryptocurrency mining (electrical intensive) and some specific types of indoor horticulture activities (electrical and water intensive), we felt it would be good to hedge against those admittedly small risks. Basically, you should treat an MTR lease just like a LTR lease, with some small adjustments because you are providing utilities and furniture.

Another side of your question ("anything important I should include when contracting with business?") is what should you provide when dealing with a business. You should provide the best possible experience for everyone involved in the process of renting your space. Business to business tenants can be some of the best paying residents you will ever have, if you treat them well. 

Think of the rent you can charge as a value proposition: what does the resident get when renting from you? The STR guest wants a nice vacation. The medical traveler wants to work at the local hospital. The insurance company wants to fulfill its obligations to the insured, and the construction company wants to keeps its employees happy, working and retained while they travel to a job site. All of these entities have a budget. The STR guest doesn't expect to earn anything beyond their regular pay during their vacation. The traveling nurse is being paid a premium, but that premium has shrunk since COVID, and the traveler often gets to pocket any part of the stipend not spent on rent (i.e. you). Both of these avatars are very cost conscious. The insurance company has a limit to what they will spend based on the contract they have with the insured. These contracts are often quite generous, but there is still a clear budget. A business that is looking to place employees into an area will value their housing based on the expected return to the business. The theoretical cap on what a business could earn placing the right employees into the right job site is huge. If a job needs a crew or individual specialized enough that importing them to an area is required, then they are likely part of a high-value deal. Quibbling over a few hundred, or even a few thousand, dollars in rent could cost the business tens (hundreds?) of thousands of dollars in lost productivity, so the business is likely a lot less price-concerned than other residents. That doesn't mean that the free market is thrown to the wind though. There will be competitors in your market that offer viable housing options, so how do you capture these valuable contracts?

You must understand the needs of all the parties involved in a business to business lease. The people who will be staying in your unit may be different than your point of contact at the company booking who may be different than the individual responsible for paying the rent. Treat everyone in this chain professionally, respectfully, and quickly. The booker is less concerned about the price as they are getting the workers' housing settled efficiently. The folks staying in your unit want a seamless transition to their new living quarters, and the person paying wants an easy way to cross out that line on their to-do list. Understand and meet all the needs of everyone involved and you will stand out from the crowd of competitors in your market. As an added bonus, doing all of this well can often land you on the "vendor list" of a company, putting your contact number as the first call to make when placing the next crew passing through.

I apologize for the long-winded reply as you probably know and understand all of this, but there might be a reader that doesn't.  These "b2b" contracts and contacts are incredibly valuable, so cultivating them is important.


A good lease protects your interests, and being a good "B2B" landlord will serve them.


Post: Midterm contract with construction company

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Hi! I have a midterm rental in Temple and a construction company wants to rent it for several months. I’d be contracting with the company and listing the occupants in the contract. Anything important I should include when contracting with the business? It’s my first time, my other unit just rented through Airbnb.

Post: Starting out in Temple TX

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Quote from @Robin Simon:
Quote from @Floris V.:

Hi everyone, I'm about to start investing in Texas and I'm leaning towards focussing on the Temple/Belton area. I might start with a Duplex for LTR and then add 2 SF for MTR close to the hospital in Temple. I'd probably have sufficient funds available to add either another Duplex or 2 more SF later this year. 

Does anyone currently have duplexes in Temple and how are they renting? Same for SF and MTR in Temple? 

I'd love to connect if anyone is following this strategy in the Temple/Belton area.


 Welcome to BP - lots of great investors and opportunities here in Central Texas!

Thanks!

Post: Starting out in Temple TX

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Quote from @Jordan Moorhead:
Quote from @Floris V.:

Hi everyone, I'm about to start investing in Texas and I'm leaning towards focussing on the Temple/Belton area. I might start with a Duplex for LTR and then add 2 SF for MTR close to the hospital in Temple. I'd probably have sufficient funds available to add either another Duplex or 2 more SF later this year. 

Does anyone currently have duplexes in Temple and how are they renting? Same for SF and MTR in Temple? 

I'd love to connect if anyone is following this strategy in the Temple/Belton area.


 I have a friend with quite a few in the area and demand is down slightly but they're renting well

Thanks for the feedback! I’ll go look at some properties there this week.

Post: Starting out in Temple TX

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Hi everyone, I'm about to start investing in Texas and I'm leaning towards focussing on the Temple/Belton area. I might start with a Duplex for LTR and then add 2 SF for MTR close to the hospital in Temple. I'd probably have sufficient funds available to add either another Duplex or 2 more SF later this year. 

Does anyone currently have duplexes in Temple and how are they renting? Same for SF and MTR in Temple? 

I'd love to connect if anyone is following this strategy in the Temple/Belton area.

Post: New investor starting soon and lots to learn

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Quote from @Joe Scaparra:

Hi Floris,

I have been investing in Central Texas for 25 years. Can give you some of my wisdom over the last 25 years but I am better at talking than typing.  If you want to do coffee or lunch let me know. 

I am neither a realtor or lender nor do I have a thousand dollar training program to sell you.  

What I do have is extensive investment experience (look at my profile).  What's in it for me?

Feedom, to tell you what I know without any conflict of interest.  Why?  Just because I like giving back.  I am a 68 yr old fart that likes to bloviate.  Most people find my bloviating worth hearing. Hit me up for coffee if you want.  Cheers!


 Hi Joe, I just saw your comment now. Sorry for not responding earlier. I'd be happy to meet up. Will send you a message

Post: New investor starting soon and lots to learn

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Quote from @Jojoberg Berg:

I think it all depends on how liquid you need to be. And also your risk appetite. For me personally, I'm a fan of the syndication deals. But on the short-term horizon 12-24 months. And then some cashflow-generating MR investments. But as I said depends on your timeframe goals. 

Myself I'm looking for some deals in Europe. If you don't mind me asking where you have a property in Europe, what was your experience?



 I'm selling a unit in Amsterdam, where we used to live before moving to the US. It's really hard to get any loans there so you'd probably have to go for cash deals, the tenant laws are really strict as well so NL might not be the best country. 

Post: Buying multi family with a foreign partner

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partner is from the Netherlands and I’m looking to buy in Texas

Quote from @Doug Smith:

Two things to think about are 1) what country is your foreign partner from and 2) where are you investing? For instance, we're based in FL and our investment arm does most of their work in FL. The State Legislature recently passed a law restricting purchases from citizens of some countries (namely China) from buying real estate in FL. Just a couple of things to think about. 


Post: Buying multi family with a foreign partner

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Hey everyone! I'm considering buying a 4plex, I can either do it myself which would be pretty straight forward. However I have another option which would be purchasing a property with a foreign investor, we would put an equal amount towards the down payment, probably the loan would have to be on me, however in that case probably the property will be put on my name and I'd have to contractually define everything with him. However I'm thinking we could also form an LLC for this, I'm just not sure how that would impact a loan?

Is there anyone who has done something like this on BP?