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All Forum Posts by: Ferrode Joseph

Ferrode Joseph has started 2 posts and replied 6 times.

The property I'm looking for is close to downtown Durham and Duke university. 

The question I have is, is it worth investing in that area? Based on my research, the rentals are doing good. 

The help I'm looking for is I need contacts for reliable property management. I did research and tried contacting a few, but none of them went well being remote investor. Some of them didn't even talk because I don't have the property yet.

I just need to talk before submitting the offer to get my numbers right.

Quote from @Michael Dumler:

@Ferrode Joseph, are the Cleveland/Columbus, Ohio posts old? Those guys post every day, hyping that market up, haha. As I tell all individuals wanting to invest out of state, regardless of the market, your success rate will largely depend on the resourcefulness and reliability of your team (agent, lender, property manager, contractor). Hypothetically, you could acquire a killer deal that cash flows $200+ monthly. However, if your PM doesn't know what the hell they are doing and sucks at their job, you now have a liability on your hand. Vet all vendors before proceeding. If you haven't already, read "Long-Distance Real Estate Investing" by David Greene. Best of luck! 


 Thank you, I agree. That was going to be my follow up. Being remote, I'm not sure how to find a good realtor and property manager whom I can trust. 

Quote from @Nicholas L.:

@Ferrode Joseph

Understood.  I'm saying that even in the markets with lower median prices - like in the Midwest - you will not cash flow unless you do something creative.


 Is that because of high interest rates? 

Couple of questions

1. What do you mean by creative?

2. Assume I don't need cash flow for the next 2 or 3 years, I can cover expenses with my other income if needed. Is it a good strategy to invest now? And what are the cities I can concentrate on?

Quote from @Dani Beit-Or:

@Ferrode Joseph 

Cash flow (CF) might be challenging these days, but it's definitely not impossible.

So, how do you analyze your properties?

We've been using a proprietary tool (an Excel) that we created about 15 years ago. With this tool, we've analyzed and bought around 1000 long-term rentals, and over the years, we've analyzed approximately 75,000 properties with it. It's been a reliable tool for us, but like any tool, it's crucial to know how to use it properly and not rely on it blindly.

I've noticed that many investors tend to use rules of thumb when analyzing properties instead of diving into the specifics of each property. They often make worst-case assumptions, which can lead to always seeing the worst-case scenario and missing out on good opportunities. I've been there and done that myself. Having a good tool and using it correctly can make a huge difference.

Another important question to ask is: What's your cash flow expectation? Are you looking for $100 per year? $3000 per year?

We still find cash flow properties. Most of the ones we come across generate around $2000 per year in cash flow when we analyze them realistically. This takes into account factors like mortgage payments, vacancies, HOA, and so on.


 Thanks, if it covers my monthly expenses of the home, I'm good. But the markets in Salt Lake City, Las Vegas or Durham, the number didn't add up well to me. Even if I bring 30% down, I must bring more money monthly for the expenses. If it is vacant or if it needs more maintenance, I must bring more money. In Utah, 30% down is a lot of money to bring in.

So, I'm looking for a good rental market to pitch in and cover expenses with the monthly rent. 

Quote from @Nicholas L.:

@Ferrode Joseph

you probably won't cash flow in the first few years of ownership wherever you go.  the idea of buying a property and immediately netting a few hundred dollars just doesn't happen unless you employ a creative strategy or combination of creative strategies.  see this thread.

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/12/topics/1171104-the-m...

where are you located?


 Thanks, I'm located in Utah. Utah home prices have been skyrocketed, so I'm looking for reasonable marked with decent cash flow to cover my expenses every month.  

Hi Everyone, 

I have been researching for real estate investment out of state for couple of months. Did some research on RTP Raleigh/Durham and Las Vegas(Summerlin/Henderson) but cash flow isn't great. I read forums here and saw Cleveland/Columbus Ohio is good but they are older posts. I like to get more options, current trends and pros/cons to start with investment . I'm just beginning, any help is much appreciated. Thanks