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All Forum Posts by: Faun Kime

Faun Kime has started 3 posts and replied 24 times.

Post: After Kiyosaki and Ramsay, it's time for some substance

Faun Kime
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@Julian Buick--  You don't think @Richard C. deliciously derailed the convo himself when he took @Joshua D. had some great reading suggestions!

Post: After Kiyosaki and Ramsay, it's time for some substance

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I'm really enjoying this thread.  Thank you @Richard C for starting it.   I'm NOT a Kiyosaki fan!  In fact, I have a question about the accuracy of this book (see the end of this post).  

I've just finished reading Rich Dad, Poor Dad after hearing the umpteenth interviewee in the podcasts recommend it.  I began to wonder how I'd had such a blind spot.  I have one of those dreaded "formal" educations in real estate finance from an accredited university (University of Southern California, go Trojans), worked as an analyst for developers and went on to brokerage for high-rise office product.  The GOOD NEWS in this is that I have an education and I've been taught how to analyze and process information, which is fundamental to success.  The BAD NEWS (and this I will give Kiyosaki and his devotees) is that I was taught to have a job.  I got caught being deal reliant... I was only getting a paycheck if I was hustling and putting in the hard work.  I see guys working for Blackstone who get caught in that trap as well.  Would have been nice if I'd been a little more educated about creating my own personal passive income. 

That said, IMHO, when you're just out of college (or just entering the workforce), there are very few ways around that.  You have to start working...you need a paycheck...you need to save.   This no money down thing, with no experience, is guru, predatory talk.  For me, Kiyosaki's book could have been a 10-page pamphlet, with those little diagrams and arrows...I liked those.

Lastly, here's my question about the accuracy of Rich Dad, Poor Dad.  Perhaps I'm just missing something but on the few occasions that Kiyosaki really talked details about his zero-money-down real estate conquests, it didn't add up.  I'd feel a lot better about this book if someone could explain this to me...

In Chapter Six (page 116), Kiyosaki details a house he acquired from a bankruptcy attorney.  He says he had NO MONEY to put into the deal and in fact, had to borrow $2,000 from a friend for the down payment.  The house was valued at $75,000 retail but he was purchasing through this bankruptcy attorney for $20,000.   During the escrow process he places an ad in Craigslist advertising this home for sale for $60,000 for NO MONEY down.  Fine.  This he says created a feeding frenzy, which I'm sure it did, it's very clever.  And he required a $2,500 processing fee from the homebuyer, so he was able to repay the person who lent him the $2000 in the first place.  Love it.  He goes on to brag about how he instantly created $40,000 in is asset column.  Love that too...hats off.  What he fails to explain as he goes on and on about this NO MONEY DOWN deal is where the apx $17,500 came from to purchase it at the end of escrow ($20k purchase price - $2,500 processing fee).  

HELP!  Am I missing something?... or do I just need to drink a little Kool-Aid and it'll all become clear?   

Post: Bidding on an REO that's occupied by owner's children

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@Will Barnard   Sorry to hear about your 4 year saga.  I heeded your advice and  sat on the sidelines.  The action is now over and went about $12k above what I was willing to pay. I'm going to keep my eye on the property to see how this story ends and am looking for vacant properties now.  Thanks again for your thoughts! 

Post: Bidding on an REO that's occupied by owner's children

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Originally posted by @Roy N.:

... or four years and counting!!!

Sounds like a nightmare!... is this in Canada or the U.S.?  

Post: Bidding on an REO that's occupied by owner's children

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Originally posted by @Jeff S.:

We work with some rehabbers who are completely fearless, and able to deal with a range of distressed properties from severe foundation issues to areas you'd never go to after dark. There are solutions for all of these -- yet no one will close on an occupied property if they can humanly avoid it.

I had to laugh at this...sounds like the scariest thing to a rehabber is an occupied property. Your post was very helpful and I'm definitely taking a pass.  On to vacant properties!   Thanks again!

Post: Bidding on an REO that's occupied by owner's children

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Thanks @Kyle Penland

Any idea if it is legal to just knock on the door of the house in which I'm interested?  Or is that considered trespassing for some reason?  Talking to neighbors is a good idea.  Thanks!

And thanks @Michael Hicks  I'll keep that in mind.  The whole thing makes me very nervous, especially when I read Bigger Pocket threads like this:  

Can't evict a squatter:  http://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/16/topics/1036...

Since this will be my first flip I'm wondering if it's smarter to start with a non-occupied property!?

Post: Bidding on an REO that's occupied by owner's children

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Hi @Michael Hicks  Thanks for your response!

 I've been reading about the process in California for evicting squatters.  If they respond to the unlawful detainer complaint and wish to go to court, it looks like it could take a month or more to get them out.  

I'm almost less concerned about the legal process than I am about retaliation and an "illegal" response.  It's a rough neighborhood!  Does anyone ever hire a security guard?

Post: Bidding on auction.com occupied property

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Thanks @Brian Burke !  I'm almost less concerned about legally evicting them than I am  about what illegal things may happen afterwards.  It's a rough neighborhood!

That said, it does seem like quite a process getting them out,  which could take a month or so!?

If I get the property, I'll keep you posted.   Thanks again for your thoughts!

Post: Los Angeles Meetup - June 13th, 2015

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I'm there!

Post: Bidding on an REO that's occupied by owner's children

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I'm in Los Angeles, CA and I'm looking to bid on an REO on the auction site "HomeSearch." It's occupied by the children of the deceased former owner...and perhaps all their high school buddies as well. It's a rather intimidating looking crew to even drive past. There are lots of them and they have VERY nice cars for congregating around this virtual tear down. Hmmm...drugs? I'm not sure. And as usual, there is very little info.

Does anyone have any thoughts about how much of a battle it would be to evict descendants of the deceased, foreclosed-upon owner... and all of their friends (think Boyz 'n the Hood)?