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All Forum Posts by: Will G.

Will G. has started 61 posts and replied 526 times.

Post: HUGE rehab needed - deal anaylsis

Will G.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Maryville, Tn
  • Posts 529
  • Votes 414

Just make sure your players are in place and not swamped with work like many are now days, lots of folks having trouble getting decent labor. Maybe contingent your contract on appraisal, and make sure it is worth what your paying,in currrent condition?

Post: What is stopping you from investing in multifamily?

Will G.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Maryville, Tn
  • Posts 529
  • Votes 414

To answer the op's question....and please anyone jump on this if i am wrong;

The country is yeild starved, bonds, besides junk, pay very little, treasuries are a joke, savings rates, crap, very old bull market is tempering new money, retail and associated brick and morter are under attack by a new paridigm and will probably see a large percentage of existing sf go unneeded, industrial space, unsure, so multifamily is the only pond with some fish left! Cap rates have compressed and will hurt some who have paid too much.

I am funded, financing waiting, but current sellers are just fishing for idiots, mistating expenses, overpricing, etc.

Maybe there are reasonable owners out there, i just have yet to find any!

Post: Is the housing market cooling?

Will G.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Maryville, Tn
  • Posts 529
  • Votes 414

my temperature gauge says yes, def cooling in east tennessee

Post: Developing 8 unit apt bldg in Middle TN - Here are my numbers...

Will G.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Maryville, Tn
  • Posts 529
  • Votes 414

Winston, i have been having the exact same struggle and trying to make sense of a 12 unit project(development). Does not look promising especially with the labor shortage here in eastern tennessee. I stopped by a manu housing dealer the other day because they had a GOOD looking modular home on display. I was blown away by how nice it was, granite, crown mldg, coffered ceilings, nice doors etc, plus it did not look like a manu home and had a 5/12 pitch roof! Actually not manu, modular is built like site built homes, but the one i saw was 1500sf and a little under$100k. Spoke to sales and was told delivery,setup, foundation and septic field would run abt $20k. If so $120k for 1500 sf=$80 per sf without all the obvious issues with building. It would be a lot less density but rents per sould be much higher. Would a collection of modulars work for your property? I would love to know if this is a consideration and can pass along info on the model i saw.

Post: How would you turn 2 million in equity into cash flow?

Will G.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Maryville, Tn
  • Posts 529
  • Votes 414

Americans are starved for yield right now and there is tremendous pressure on anything realestate that throws off cash. Even the experienced syndicators are having trouble finding deals. Stupid cap rates out there with a lot of trouble ahead if rents should start to fall. Side note; seattle 1 bedrooms are having dramatic increases in vacancy rates.

The retail apocolypse that will kill 40 percent of that sectors square footage needs in the coming decade, no yeild in bonds, artificially cheap money(interest rates) and an old bull equities market has everybody fishing in the same shallow pond.

Please keep your job until you have something SECURED. If you need to sell your primary to get liquid do it soon, and dont fall for the "wait for the top" mentality, as you only see a top in the the rearview. 

Count you blessings, dont try to hold onto every dollaras you move to your next stage in life, and pick something you will feel good about!

Post: When is the right time to get in?

Will G.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Maryville, Tn
  • Posts 529
  • Votes 414

lots of good advice here, my 2 cents is anytime a deal works! 

But what if the day you buy, housing drops 20%. On 200k house that is 40k, which sucks but how much money are you not making from rent and principal paydown? My point, not being in the market costs you as well.

Post: Smart money in the aftermath of Harvey.

Will G.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Maryville, Tn
  • Posts 529
  • Votes 414

Sharing my flood experience from another post..

i had to rehab a relatives home after the flood in louisiana, what a pia! Some things to consider..subcontractors are going to be very hard to find/get out unless you have long term relationships to rely on. Materials were very difficult to get, and there weren't nearly as many impacted homes as in houston. I had to go to the neighbor state to get all my cabinets and doors! Short and medium term impact on the value of a flooded home is sustantial, and my research would indicate as much as 30% reduction in value from pre flood value, after complete rehab. If you are thinking rehab and resell, then documenting every step, showing you waited for all the framing to get dry enough to re-drywall and perhaps getting pro mold treatment with a warrenty would help mitigate flood value loss. I can tell you in the neighborhood i was in, lots of people were doing this stuff themselves and NOT doing things right! To make things worse were all the fema trailers in front yards, piles of trash and torn up front yards, which might make selling a home in a shortish time frame difficult. Also you have to decide what to do with electrical wiring. The nec says nothing about replacing flooded wire, but nema states submerged wiring should be replaced. Everyone i spoke to did not replace wire.just remember; all drywall 12 inches above flood line, cabinets, doors, flooring(tile should be fine), maybe the a/c equipment, window stools, baseboard, insulation, outlets (at least) and it took us 3 months with multiple fans and humidifiers running to get all the wood back to acceptable moisture content. Another weirdness that you may or may not face...many of the homes were continually having big wet spots appear in/on the slabs, hundreds of people, were calling leak detection services, thinking an underground plumbing leak was causing these mystery wet spots. The only thing i could ever figure is that water got trapped between slab and the plastic that goes down at construction and just slowely mitigates out, which might mean no water sensitive flooring for quite some time. Oh and the cherry on top is everything is potentially toxic! 3 subs and myself got really sick, some bacterial thing comes in with all that muck water!

I don't want to discourage you but i am very experienced builder/remodeler and i would not want to go through this again, without a clear minimum of $50k at the end of the rainbow. I think the only way to approach is rehab and rent for 5 years or more or get these properties at a super discount. I might suggest 25% of pre flood value?

Post: Flood, or not to Flood, That is the Question!

Will G.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Maryville, Tn
  • Posts 529
  • Votes 414

Yea, i had to rehab a relatives home after the flood in la, what a pia! Some things to consider..subcontractors are going to be very hard to find/get out unless you have long term relationships to rely on. Materials were very difficult to get, and there weren't nearly as many impacted homes as in houston. I had to go to the neighbor state to get all my cabinets and doors! Short and medium term impact on the value of a flooded home is sustantial, and my research would indicate as much as 30% reduction in value from pre flood value. If you are thinking rehab and resell, then documenting every step, showing you waited for all the framing to get dry enough to re-drywall and perhaps getting pro mold treatment with a warrenty would help mitigate flood value loss. I can tell you in the neighborhood i was in, lots of people were doing this stuff themselves and NOT doing things right! To make things worse were all the fema trailers in front yards, piles of trash and torn up front yards, which might make selling a home in a shortish time frame difficult. Also you have to decide what to do with electrical wiring. The nec says nothing about replacing flooded wire, but nema states submerged wiring should be replaced. Everyone i spoke to did not replace wire.just remember; all drywall 12 inches above flood line, cabinets, doors, flooring(tile should be fine), maybe the a/c equipment, window stools, baseboard, insulation, outlets (at least) and it took us 3 months with multiple fans and humidifiers running to get all the wood back to acceptable moisture content. Another weirdness that you may or may not face...many of the homes were continually having big wet spots appear in/on the slabs, hundreds of people, were calling leak detection services, thinking an underground plumbing leak was causing these mystery wet spots. The only thing i could ever figure is that water got trapped between slab and the plastic that goes down at construction and just slowely mitigates out, which might mean no water sensitive flooring for quite some time. Oh and the cherry on top is everything is potentially toxic! 3 subs and myself got really sick, some bacterial thing comes in with all that muck water!

I don't want to discourage you but i am very experienced builder/remodeler and i would not want to go through this again, without a clear minimum of $50k at the end of the rainbow. I think the only way to approach is rehab and rent for 5 years or more or get these properties at a super discount. I might suggest 25% of pre flood value?

Post: ENTIRE AC unit needs to be replace. Wiped out ALL cash flow ??

Will G.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Maryville, Tn
  • Posts 529
  • Votes 414

I was paying $3k for 2.5 ton units (rheem) to replace condensor and air handler, with electric heat. Why would you be redoing wiring?

Post: Deal analysis, what should i offer for this property?

Will G.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Maryville, Tn
  • Posts 529
  • Votes 414

Thanks for the replys... cap rates in the area, between 7 and 8. This property is located in a very good neighborhood, mostly surrounded by single family and a mile from major college. Owner claims 435k in recent upgrades.