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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 13 posts and replied 112 times.

Post: Does anyone see anything wrong with this plan about buying hotels?

Account ClosedPosted
  • Investor
  • Orlando, FL
  • Posts 121
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Originally posted by @Joe Bertolino:
Originally posted by @Account Closed:
Originally posted by @Joe Bertolino:
I insure several hotel guys that own 60 properties or so. It can be very profitable but it is not a hands off business and I would not consider it passive income.

I don't want to discourage anybody but if it were the cash cow they were presenting in the sales packet, they wouldn't be selling it on the open market.

 Well they can't be at all 60, so why even be at one? Why not be sailing, working from home, or on vacation like they probably are.

I am just giving you my 02 cents for the hotel operators I know.  They are typically at one property with managers (often extended relatives) running their other locations.  Those relatives often live on site.  My most successful motel client with 22 properties said he lived on site at one property or another for his first 12 years in business.  At this point he has a great life and spends months at a time on vacation at a beautiful flat in Mumbai,  but I think he paid a big price to get there.   If you think 2-2.5* hotels are cash machines that are easy to operate,  you will be in for a rude awakening.  I wish you the best,  let us know how it works out.  

I really do think it's easy to operate. I run an RV park right now and I work about 3 hours per week (granted it took more time to set up, but now that it's set up, I only work about 3 hours per week)... that is why I would get the financials before I buy.

You can go to loopnet.com right now and find 1000s of hotels that have been operating for a profit for quite some time.... it's just a matter of qualifying for the loan and coming up with the down payment. But once I have one, then I will have 2, 3, 4, 5, 6..... 1000, 2000, 6000. I probably won't even rename them.

Not if I can't think of a better name than the Inn & Out. That's stupid.

Post: What exactly does a title company do that I can't do myself?

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  • Orlando, FL
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Originally posted by @Mary B.:

@Account Closed

If you think that all title companies are scammers that's your perogative. However before you jump to such a harsh conclusion you might want to learn all that entails in doing abstract of title and the breakdown of that position. It's your homework not mine. 

Kudos,

Mary

Only thing I can think of is if the property is used as collateral on a loan for something.

Post: Does anyone see anything wrong with this plan about buying hotels?

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  • Orlando, FL
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*$6.5 billion in profit. 

And I know I'm the "oddball" troll here and I'm about to say something that will make you all think I'm absolutely nuts....

I don't hire attorneys at all. I refuse to waste money on them.

leg.state.fl.us

Section 83 - Landlord and Tenant

Section 509 - Lodging and Food Service Establishments

.... it's just as easy as reading it.

Post: Does anyone see anything wrong with this plan about buying hotels?

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  • Orlando, FL
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Originally posted by @Jason Bott:

@Account Closed, just like @Joe Bertolino, I insure several hotels, all Indian owned.  their entire family works in the biz around the clock but takes a salary well below minimum wage.  So if the p&l shows $30k in payroll, you know that a good portion of the profit will convert to payroll unless you have a huge family always dreaming of running a hotel.

 Well the Hilton's don't run their own hotels. They manage to do okay. $10.5 billion in revenue in 2014, $6.5 billion in revenue. I don't think Paris is scrubbing the floors, either. I'll hire people at minimum wage or as close to it as I can. I will not have a maintenance person on staff, I will just hire when necessary. I don't have every single detail, but even if it that drops to a measly $900,000/year.... then so be it. (and that is on ONE hotel).

Insure in what way? Tenant injury liability by any chance?

Btw... I do currently run an RV park, so I have experience in some of these things. It is very similar. Collect rent. Fix things. It's seriously so easy, I don't know why you all are making it out to be some complicated task to run a hotel. I know 3 people that run a motel by themselves.

Post: Does anyone see anything wrong with this plan about buying hotels?

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  • Orlando, FL
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Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

spoken by the one who wants a lambo or 5 of them..... time machines are critical to success when you have business's in multiple states

 Actually, I would start a side business. Exotc car rentals. Did you know you can get a brand new Aventador for $7,500/month (loan and insurance) and rent it out for $3000/day??? Companies that do this rent it out nearly every day. That is a hefty profit. But again, why am I sharing my business ideas for free.

That "Lambo" comment is called sarcasm. (doesn't come across well on text, I'll admit)

Post: What exactly does a title company do that I can't do myself?

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  • Orlando, FL
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Originally posted by @Mary B.:

You surely have some more homework to do....

Kudos,

Mary

 So inform us oh wise one.

Post: What exactly does a title company do that I can't do myself?

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Originally posted by @Travis Lloyd:

a) They don't cost that much, so its at least in part due to the benefit of the price vs. the time to do the search

b) The insurance that should something ever arise about the saleability of the property, or ownership, etc... they will take care of it. As with everything else in this world, its the insurance companies that rule the roost.

It can be frustrating, understandably, but just accept it as a cost of doing business. I don't know how you fund your deals, but all mortgage companies require it and even most HML that I know require it. Its not just your a$$ that insurance is covering.

 Yea I know. And they require mortgage insurance as well. Sucks.

Once I sold a property without using a realtor or a title company, though. But it was just a vacant piece of land.

Post: What would you name a chain of hotels?

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  • Orlando, FL
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Originally posted by @Account Closed:
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

Yea I'm a freak. Not gonna lie.

 There ya go. The Freak Inn.  We have the most Freak Inn comfortable beds!  Check in for the Freak Inn most luxurious stay!  Ask about our Freak Inn low rates.

You could be more famous than the Sofa King.  LOL...

DON'T get me started.

I know....

The "Shower Cam Hotel"....

Hahahaha.

Post: Do you see anything potentially wrong with this plan for residential new construction?

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  • Orlando, FL
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Originally posted by @J Scott:

Nope... I think you don't know because you continue to say things you wouldn't say if you did know. 

If you ever do try to build a house and gain a bit of experience,  I hope you'll come back here and reread this thread...you'll give yourself a good laugh... 😉

 Yea well of course the first time is the learning experience. I didn't claim to know EVERYTHING.... but I bet I will streamline the process and do it a hell of a lot more efficiently the second time around... and just imagine the THIRD time!!! And by the 7th time, I should have enough to put down on a hotel and my "building" days should be about over. Unless I can run it as a side business if it is still profitable to hire other people to do the labor.

Post: Do you see anything potentially wrong with this plan for residential new construction?

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  • Orlando, FL
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Originally posted by @J Scott:
Originally posted by @Account Closed:
BECAUSE I AM SMARTER THAN YOU!!!! 

I'll be honest... My first thought was, "There is no way this guy is smarter than I am."

But, then I noticed that you used all capital letters and four exclamation points.  Three exclamation points I could argue with, but four of them makes your point pretty much irrefutable.  

Well played...you're clearly a force to be reckoned with... 

Okay, I'll let you know how much profit I make from this house.

I'll even keep you up to date step-by-step. Tomorrow, I go back to the architect with the final revisions, which will include bitching at them to include the electrical diagram they promised me in the quote, which they might want to include if they want the rest of their money. Then, send it to my contractors. I already basically know who I am going to hire, but I will send to a few just to be sure.

I would say "I'll post pictures," but by the time I am actually building the thing.... I would probably be too tired to care.