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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 13 posts and replied 112 times.

Post: What exactly does a title company do that I can't do myself?

Account ClosedPosted
  • Investor
  • Orlando, FL
  • Posts 121
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Originally posted by @Crystal Smith:
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

It seems like a scam. I can search the property appraiser to see when the title was transferred. I can all the tax collector to see if taxes are current. I can get a copy of a warranty deed from the courthouse for next to nothing.

What exactly are they claiming to be doing for me?

Title companies don't exist to provide you with a warranty deed or just to research taxes or current liens.....  They exist to provide you w/ protection against future claims against the title.  Claims that may arise because of recorded defects or a claim against the property that's not recorded anywhere.  You can't bring a "third party" in to protect you against such claims after the fact.  After the fact meaning- After you close.  Key words here are "third party" & "after the fact."   You can naturally defend yourself against any claims, but w/ Title Insurance the Title Company becomes your "third party" defender.  Title companies won't provide insurance w/o doing the due diligence research themselves.  

What you need to watch out for w/ Title companies are "junk fees".  We've challenged junk fees in the past.

 Who might have a claim against the property that's not recorded anywhere.

Post: What exactly does a title company do that I can't do myself?

Account ClosedPosted
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  • Orlando, FL
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Originally posted by @Chris K.:
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

 I didn't ask if it was required, I asked if they did anything I couldn't do myself. I'm still not convinced of that.

 I'm pretty sure you're capable of doing anything you put your mind to. The realtor isn't doing anything you can't do, the loan originator isn't doing anything you can't do, the underwriter isn't doing anything you can't do, the lawyers aren't doing anything you can't do, the insurance broker isn't doing anything you can't do, the surveyor isn't doing anything you can't do, the home inspector isn't doing anything you can't do, the plumber or electrician isn't doing anything you can't do. 

The real question is "Is it worth it for you to do it yourself?". We would burn ourselves out if we tried to do everything ourselves. Title is one of those major things that I want no part of and I will gladly pay to have that  liability/responsibility fall in someone elses lap.

 Actually, a loan originator is doing something I can't do. Otherwise, I wouldn't need one in the first place. Insurance broker is too. I don't have a license to insure, nor do I want one.

Post: How would you invest $1,000,000?

Account ClosedPosted
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  • Orlando, FL
  • Posts 121
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Originally posted by @Manolo D.:

Unsecured lending.

Sounds like a plan.

Post: Does anyone see anything wrong with this plan about buying hotels?

Account ClosedPosted
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  • Orlando, FL
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Originally posted by @Ken Graham:

That's awesome!  You sound like a business genius. I am sure lenders will be lining up at your camp ground, throwing millions $$ at you to fund your hotel empire. Just tell them how "easy" it for you to run a large hotel and you will have all the money you'll ever need.

BTW that's a clever strategy to ask for help on a forum and then insult the people who respond.

You should definitely use that technique and insult your bankers and call them "stupid" or "retard" if they pose a difficult question. That's a great way to impress people.

Keep up the awesome work.

The difference is that the lenders make running a hotel The fact that you all think this shows that you don't know how the lending industry works. Or at least not as well as I do.

Post: Does anyone see anything wrong with this plan about buying hotels?

Account ClosedPosted
  • Investor
  • Orlando, FL
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Originally posted by @Rob Golob:
Originally posted by @Account Closed:
Originally posted by @Joe Bertolino:
Originally posted by @Account Closed:
Originally posted by @Joe Bertolino:
I insure several hotel guys that own 60 properties or so. It can be very profitable but it is not a hands off business and I would not consider it passive income.

I don't want to discourage anybody but if it were the cash cow they were presenting in the sales packet, they wouldn't be selling it on the open market.

 Well they can't be at all 60, so why even be at one? Why not be sailing, working from home, or on vacation like they probably are.

I am just giving you my 02 cents for the hotel operators I know.  They are typically at one property with managers (often extended relatives) running their other locations.  Those relatives often live on site.  My most successful motel client with 22 properties said he lived on site at one property or another for his first 12 years in business.  At this point he has a great life and spends months at a time on vacation at a beautiful flat in Mumbai,  but I think he paid a big price to get there.   If you think 2-2.5* hotels are cash machines that are easy to operate,  you will be in for a rude awakening.  I wish you the best,  let us know how it works out.  

I really do think it's easy to operate. I run an RV park right now and I work about 3 hours per week (granted it took more time to set up, but now that it's set up, I only work about 3 hours per week)... that is why I would get the financials before I buy.

You can go to loopnet.com right now and find 1000s of hotels that have been operating for a profit for quite some time.... it's just a matter of qualifying for the loan and coming up with the down payment. But once I have one, then I will have 2, 3, 4, 5, 6..... 1000, 2000, 6000. I probably won't even rename them.

Not if I can't think of a better name than the Inn & Out. That's stupid.

If you were sharp, you would increase your hours 20 fold to 60 per week and then you would have that hotel down payment in no time...............

Which makes no sense because it's rented out to capacity and only takes 3 hours per week of work. It wouldn't add profitability to work doing nothing, now would it?

Post: Does anyone see anything wrong with this plan about buying hotels?

Account ClosedPosted
  • Investor
  • Orlando, FL
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Originally posted by @Ken Graham:

 What sort of annual revenue does your trailer park generate?

Assuming someone loans you enough to buy a hotel, what qualifications will you require for your general manager? Would a candidate be qualified to run a multi-million $ property who's main experience consisted of running a trailer par for 3 hours/ week?

 It's the same ****ing principle you retard. Nothing is hard about any of it.

Post: How would you invest $1,000,000?

Account ClosedPosted
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  • Orlando, FL
  • Posts 121
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Manolo D.:

Cash? Retire on a third world country like Philippines, Vietnam, or Ecuador. Where $1000/month is too much to cover for food, gas, utilities, 24 hour on-call house cleaner and personal assistant, plus a driver. Houses at 70,000 gets you a newly built 5,000 sq ft house with 3 acres of land near the highway. Live 60 years like a king. Boring? Build a business to support $1,000/month with 40k.

 What kind of business?

Post: What exactly does a title company do that I can't do myself?

Account ClosedPosted
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  • Orlando, FL
  • Posts 121
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Bill Hamilton:

John, if you are a cash buyer you can do most of what they do. If you need any sort of financing, then it is not worth arguing about. No lending institution including every HM or private lender I have ever worked with will require it. From your own standpoint if you are willing to lose a property to an unexpected claim or lien against the title then go for it. Title insurance is no different than buying life or health insurance. You are not required to get it but rather you are gambling that you won't need it. If you purchase title insurance and an unrecorded lien etc. shows up then the title company will fight it and if they don't win they will pay out the policy. They also know how to solve title issues that most of us don't know about until it smacks us in the face. I used to work the wholesale side of mortgages and I can tell you I had more deals fall apart due to clouded title issues than from any other single thing.

 Yes I know lenders require it.

Post: How would you invest $1,000,000?

Account ClosedPosted
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  • Orlando, FL
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Originally posted by @Derek B.:

@Melissa Johnson

you may want to read some of his other threads before engaging too much further...

Yea I know everything that I'm talking about. I don't claim to know everything. didn't you read my post about condominiums?

Do you know landlord and tenant law like the back of your hand? I do.

I could go on for hours. how do you know what I know?

Post: What exactly does a title company do that I can't do myself?

Account ClosedPosted
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  • Orlando, FL
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Originally posted by @Jerry W.:

@Account Closed, its this simple, you will not be able to do real estate as a business without title insurance.  You will not get loans from banks without it, you will not be able to sale property without it.  There was a time folks used abstracts.  You had a book of all the past deeds in your chain of title to prove that your chain of title to you was in good shape.  I am unaware of any states that still use those.  Title insurance is PROOF of good title.  Its like driving a car, its illegal in all states to not have insurance.  If you waste your time arguing over this you will not get to the next step.

 I didn't ask if it was required, I asked if they did anything I couldn't do myself. I'm still not convinced of that.

Cool hat.