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All Forum Posts by: Fallon Gilbert

Fallon Gilbert has started 7 posts and replied 52 times.

Post: Can you get creative on properties with HOA?

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Quote from @Wayne Brooks:

@Fallon Gilbert Do Not sell sub2….these would allow the buyer/title at some point to stop paying mtg and still collect rents/live there while You get foreclosed on.  At least do a wrap mtg and have an attorney/title company draft the Note and Mortgage for you.


 Wayne, I'd love to talk more because the ones I'm talking about are actually right near West Palm Beach so you might have more insight. 

If not subto, would seller finance be an option?

Post: Can you get creative on properties with HOA?

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Hey All,

Looking for some feedback on properties with HOA.

My family currently owns a condo in a community with an HOA which we currently have rented out. There are multiple other properties listed for sale and some in preforeclosure as well so I wanted to try to attempt with seller financing or SubTo. I wasn't sure if this is something that the HOA would prohibit when trying to do the process.


Does anyone have any experience with this or have any feedback?

Thanks!

Post: Seller Financing Questions

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For the first part, is it seller financing or Subto? The way it's phrased makes it seem like it's more Subto rather than seller financing.

For the second part, I'm not 100% sure what you mean. Do you mean you getting a HELOC or the existing owner?

Post: Is this the right method to finance

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@Fallon Gilbert

I bought my first two rentals with cash. I had to borrow from my 401k, do a HELOC on my primary and cash out some from my Roth IRA. it got me in the game. So one house was only 56k. I sold it a year later for 95k and did a 1031 exchange on it to buy one for 225k. Then I did a cash out refi on that one to pull out the equity to use to buy 3 more houses with 20% down on each one. So the cash flow went from just $400/month from that one house to about 3k/month after all my expenses by scaling up. And the other one I paid for cash, I harvested that equity a few years later by doing a cash out refi on it. I used that cash (140k) to buy 3 more rentals. So my advice to you would be to somehow pay cash for them now if you can, then get creative down the line with your financing like I did to scale up for free. Scaling up didn't cost me a cent out of pocket later on. That's how I've bought 12 rentals. I used built up equity just sitting there doing nothing for me to buy more cash flowing properties for free. Good luck!


 Thank you, John, for replying! This makes a lot of sense. I've got a lot of numbers to run and calls to make from the feedback. Thanks all!

Post: Is this the right method to finance

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Quote from @Justin Hammerle:

@Fallon Gilbert - I don't how much equity you have to invest, but it appears to me your method could wipe out quite a bit of it on just one property.  There are lenders out there (national even) that offer small mortgage loans https://www.lendingtree.com/ho...

you could also consider P2P lending and private lenders

best of luck


 Hey Justin, thanks for replying. I replied to Ed's comment just before you posted actually but I'll take a look at that website. I'm not sure that P2P is, would you be able to enlighten me on that?

Thanks

Post: Is this the right method to finance

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Quote from @Edward Stephens:

@Fallon Gilbert great question.  First, I wouldn't worry about "what the threshold is for a lot of lenders."  Find a good lender that wants your business and they'll come through for you.  Sometimes they'll do it b/c they have a relationship with the agent involved.  Ask your agent to come through for you on this...it's their job.

I would recommend putting  the minimum down to buy the property (probably 20%), and then saving the rest of your cash for the next property.  In this case, I would avoid personal loans if you can take a loan against real estate, because the interest rate you pay on a personal loan will (almost always) be higher than a loan you take against real estate. 

You could put each property into it's own LLC and if you get an attorney they can do that for you after closing.

What are you trying to achieve by getting all of these properties into one loan?


 Hey Ed, thanks for taking the time to reply. To answer your question simply, it would be to meet the minimum threshold and to pull my cash back out. I have a good amount of cash saved up for 1 property like I mentioned. I haven't been able to find a lender that is able to lend under $100k but I'll try reaching out to some small banks. 

The other issue and reason for the roundabout method is because I'm trying not to have a mortgage in my name as I haven't purchased one yet. My state offers first time home buyer incentives which can make a large difference when buying a primary resident so I've been saving that for when I buy my primary. So, even if I have to pay a slightly higher interest rate than still cash flows, I prefer that to losing the incentive. 

Does that make sense?

Post: Is this the right method to finance

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Hey All,

Based on a lot of the feedback from everyone on here, I've gotten a lot of great information and some more direction on what I should be doing but I want to make sure this makes sense.


I'm planning on buying some properties in PA which have purchase prices below $100k which is typically the minimum threshold for a lot of lenders. I have some cash that I was planning on buying a property first to refinance later. My question is, does it make sense to purchase with what cash I have first, then take out a personal loan to purchase 1 or 2 more properties and then refinance into a portfolio loan? My goal is to get these under a DSCR loan under an LLC but I'm unsure if this would be the best method or if there's something I'm missing.


Thanks!

Post: Appliance Purchase - DirectBuy

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Hello

My wife I will be equipping two new rental properties (our first two) with a fridge, dishwasher, oven, washer and dryer in June/July of this year.

I read that a DirectBuy membership ($800) is a great way to get name brand appliances for lower than market prices, but I've also read a lot of poor reviews so I wanted to know if anyone on BiggerPockets has experience with DirectBuy or any tips on the most cost effective way to acquire all these appliances.

thank you very much


 Hey Joseph!

I've personally never heard of DirectBuy but if the reviews are quite poor then it might not be the way to go. If you'd like, send me a DM with what you're looking for and roughly what your budget is. I'll see if my company can acquire what you're looking for.

Post: Need help with Lending Knowledge

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Quote from @Fallon Gilbert:

Hey all!

Everyone here has been super helpful with answering any questions I have and I appreciate you all for that. I do have another question which pertains to lending that I'm not sure the best route to take.

The area I'm looking to invest in has low priced SFH and MFH (low like ~$60k or less) and I would like to put them in an LLC. Since the purchase prices are so low, I don't necessarily need 20/30 year mortgages on them but I'd also rather not lay out $60k cash that way I can do more deals. I've heard of portfolio loans but I'm unsure of how that works and same DSCR loans.


Basically, I'm looking for a loan (or lender) that will lend to an LLC and I don't know what they base it on. Would I be able to show the calculator for previous deals plus the new deal to see the CoC return?

Any advice appreciated!


Your best bet to qualify for DSCR is going to be able to bundle at least 3 at once into one portfolio. If you can do that, the economics can work for the DSCR lender and the minimum property values can be pretty low


 Yeah, I'll probably give this a try. Thanks!

Post: Need help with Lending Knowledge

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Quote from @Jim Duncan:

I would absolutely agree with both ideas of a personal loan, and shopping through local lenders.

I was actually just trying to help a client do DSCR cash-out refis on two $100k properties in Missouri this week, and long story short, we couldn't match up anything that would work throughout our entire network. The loan amounts are just too small for the risk associated with investment properties for most larger lenders. Additionally, in your case, New York in about the hardest state in the country for most mid-size lenders to get approval in, so that alone diminishes your options considerably.

I'd recommend contacting all small banks, and especially credit unions in your area, to explain what you're looking to do. If they believe in your plan, then you can most likely get a long-term relationship going with one of them where they cut you some leeway on the smaller property sizes.

Best of luck!


 Thank you!