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All Forum Posts by: Eric W.

Eric W. has started 17 posts and replied 58 times.

Post: Real estate vs REIT

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I haven’t dipped my toe into real estate investing just yet but was planning to do so early next year maybe. But I have a question do most of you invest in real estate for the monthly or income or for price appreciation on the asset? When looking at some of the measly cap rates around country ie low single digit % wouldn’t it just be equally beneficial to invest in reits vs potential headaches of owning hard real estate? 

Plenty of Reits and reit ETFS yield 4% + and have had great price appreciation over the years, for example realty income ticker symbol O. You can own real estate with out the potential problems of bad tenants, repairs, property taxes, evictions etc. 

Not trying to talk myself out of owning real estate but just trying to gage how those who have been down that road see the pros and cons of the two options. I know real estate investing is very lucrative otherwise it wouldn't be so popular. But part of me thinks why would it not be easier to just buy a REIT like O with an over 4% yield

Post: Best market to start in

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Quote from @Joe Hammel:

@Eric W.

Metro Detroit

(my rental portfolio is here)

Now before jumping the gun and claiming all of Michigan is “not safe” because of some rough areas in Detroit..I challenge anyone to think a little broader.

I’m sure you just heard the podcast about Detroit being the #1 cash flow market in the county.

1 point scored.

Next, I’m not recommending buying a $20k 3% rule deal. There are some amazing markets that tenants actually pay and are relatively lower maint and make the best rentals for passive income in the country.

Again, I’m allowed to have this opinion because I own these.

Purchase: $80k-$130k

Rent: $1200-$1500

ROI: 10-14%

Cash flow: $250-$350/door

Appreciation: Double digit (for past 10 years, will gladly send data)

Location: C+, B- (suburbs and certain markets)

We have over a dozen Fortune 500 companies just in Metro Detroit with huge Healthcare, Auto, mortgage, Amazon fulfillment, and more jobs.

The bad reputation comes from OOS investors wanting $20k D market properties. We don’t buy those lol.

What area in Detroit do you recommend in that price range? 

Post: Best market to start in

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Quote from @Shiela R.:

@Eric W. good question.  Where do YOU live?  If you are just starting out, you want to keep it simple. Focus on an area that is a reasonable drive time (this is a personal thing). When I was first starting out, young and hungry, I drove an hour each way to some of my properties.  Both flips and LTH.  But, I managed everything myself bc I wanted to learn and am a bit of a control freak;)  Even if you live in an area that is saturated or prices don't make sense to buy for you, there is always a secondary market near enough. Become an expert on that market.  Drive, walk, bike and notice what is what.  Once, you learn how to correctly identify values, you can apply it to any market.

I live in DFW area Texas. I would love to but property taxes are SKY high in Texas and they increase every year. I already get raked over the coals in property taxes on my own home I could not imagine having 2 here. Especially when there are plenty of low tax states with just as good of economies as here. 

Post: Best market to start in

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Quote from @Eric W.:

If you could pick one market in the country for an aspiring investor to get started in what would pick? Specifically looking into things like cost, area safety, ROI, taxes. States seem to South Carolina, Colorado, Arkansas, Ohio, Alabama among others but trying to narrow down specific areas to look. Thanks!


 I would pick Columbus, Ohio

Which specific neighborhoods in Columbus are sought after, safe, affordable investment areas? Thanks 

Post: Best market to start in

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If you could pick one market in the country for an aspiring investor to get started in what would pick? Specifically looking into things like cost, area safety, ROI, taxes. States seem to South Carolina, Colorado, Arkansas, Ohio, Alabama among others but trying to narrow down specific areas to look. Thanks!

Post: Tips for a first invest prop in co?

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Quote from @James Carlson:

@Eric W.

I agree with Alexa above. It seems like if you want to invest in Colorado, and you also like to visit Colorado a lot, then a short-term rental or Airbnb property makes a lot of sense. You can get all the trappings of a real estate investment -- appreciation (hopefully), cash flow, mortgage paydown, tax benefits, etc. -- while also getting a place for you to stay when you visit.

When it comes to the money, you may not have a choice. First question I have is where would you be looking? There are still some second-home loans that only require 10% down, so maybe you'd qualify for that, but they're getting strict about those loans. If you buy it as a pure investment, then you'll have to put down 20% and almost anywhere in the Denver metro area, and most of the mountains and down in Colorado Springs, you're going to likely need to spend at least $500k to get anything decent for an STR, and 20% of that is the money you're talking about. So you likey don't have an option of going much above that anyway.

I wish you the best in your search. Colorado is such an awesome place to live. I've been here for 11 years and still feel grateful for the weather and the mountains. Cheers!

Ya that’s what I was worried about, hence the reason I have been waiting for this market to really come back. I originally was looking at STR but then when I saw how much decent ones were going for I figured with that and a 5% rate I would really need a ton of traffic. Right now the max id probably want go put down is around 125k or so. But on a LTR can maybe find something decent low 3s? I’d also need PM as well. 

Post: Tips for a first invest prop in co?

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Quote from @Alexa Ferguson:

Hey Eric! To get the best return on your money, I would recommend purchasing a short-term rental - these generate significantly more cash flow than long-term rentals. This could also be a great option for you since you spend a good amount of time in Colorado, so you can use it whenever you'd like rather than having a tenant occupying it constantly. As far as when to buy, it's tough to time the market perfectly since no one really knows what will happen in the future, as much as we try to predict it. Right now competition has dropped off significantly making it much easier to purchase a property, so if you are wanting to get started investing now is a good time. The rest of your questions depend on what part of Colorado you are interested in - are you thinking the Denver area, or somewhere in the mountains?

Open to all areas, but for short term rental would want to make sure I'm in a high traffic area for STRs. Do you think with about 125k down payment I could find an STR that would have enough booking traffic to easily exceed the mortgage payment I'd have? I figure on an STR loan with 125k down and ~ 5% rate I'd need quite a bit of bookings to exceed to mortgage cost + property management.

Quote from @David Mackin:

Hi @Katrina Morato

Investing in Colorado-like anywhere-depends on what you're looking for.

Short term renting is a great option here especially if you can find a property in a mountain town for skiing. Those can certainly be hard to come by nowadays. You can even find great deals in the metro area close to I-70 (the main highway route to ski resorts). These properties are great for those looking for skiing, hiking, and mountain biking, while also being close to Denver to see the city. Best of both worlds!

In the greater Denver Metro area, prices have risen significantly. It can be pretty difficult to find seriously cash-flowing properties if you plan on using financing. Not saying it's impossible. If you find the right deal, it can certainly work in your favor. The great thing about the Denver Metro area is that it combats drops in the market. When the rest of the country sees home prices fall, Denver doesn't get hit as hard or even remains stagnant. It's certainly a great market for appreciation gains.

There are some interesting plays developing the further out from Denver you get. Look North-East, or even South and you can find some growth opportunities. This is something that a good real estate agent can help you with for sure.

Feel free to reach out if you want a few connections with folks here in Colorado to help you start your journey. I'm sure there are many in this forum that will jump in conversation to help!

I was born here in Colorado so you'll have to excuse my bias, but Colorado is the BEST!

Hi, I have similar interests as OP. What specific areas do you recommend in the NE and south? Thanks!  

Post: Tips for a first invest prop in co?

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I live in TX but have family in the area so am up in co a lot. I’m thinking about making my first investment property in Colorado. I wanted to see if anyone could provide me with any tips or advice for an initial investment property. 

I’m working with about 100-125k should I try to find something smaller and simple and stay as close to possible as that as I can ie higher down payment? 

Or should I find something a little more pricey but in a more desirable neighborhood? 

Or Should I wait a few months before even looking and let the market keep cooling? 

What are some things that you believe a first time investor should know or do when selecting a property in Colorado?


thanks! 

Other than obvious realtor, Zillow, Redfin…are there any other real estate websites that focus on listings of properties that have a history of STR or an emphasis on STR? Thanks