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All Forum Posts by: Eric Prescott

Eric Prescott has started 9 posts and replied 90 times.

Post: Lead Paint Certification

Eric PrescottPosted
  • Investor
  • Union County, NJ
  • Posts 92
  • Votes 52
Quote from @James Wise:
Quote from @Eric Prescott:

Long story, but he stole tens of thousands of dollars from us and other investors and contractors. Likely that he faked a robbery at a construction site, though I can't prove it, but it was after that when things went downhill. He was sued by the state on various charges like telecommunications and identity fraud, but was slapped on the wrist. I was not able to sue because lawyers thought he would be uncollectable and the county prosecutor's office stated that since it was a breach of contract it was not a civil matter. 

More specific: He stole months of rent and utility payments from a tenant (and threatened to evict her!) so we didn't see rent on that unit until we got a new property manager involved, and so we are still digging out from the lost rent and back utility payments. He also did a very superficial rehab job, so we spent several thousands more on the unit when the new PM took over. I had to pay contractors he stiffed in order to remove liens and refinance the property. 

Same guy handled a triplex rehab (the one with the theft), and that's where he took money that he simply pocketed or used in some sort of Ponzo scheme to pay off other debts (I have no way to know, but the money did not go to contractors or to continue work at the site). Much of the work that was done had to be redone, especially due to stolen wiring, cabinets, etc. I basically ended up paying for the rehab twice and lost tens of thousands of dollars to make sure my lenders were all paid back. I also had to pay contractors he stiffed in order to remove liens so I could sell the property.


 Brutal. Who was it? I wonder if I've heard of the guy.

See attached. 

Post: Lead Paint Certification

Eric PrescottPosted
  • Investor
  • Union County, NJ
  • Posts 92
  • Votes 52
Quote from @James Wise:
Quote from @Eric Prescott:

Long story, but he stole tens of thousands of dollars from us and other investors and contractors. Likely that he faked a robbery at a construction site, though I can't prove it, but it was after that when things went downhill. He was sued by the state on various charges like telecommunications and identity fraud, but was slapped on the wrist. I was not able to sue because lawyers thought he would be uncollectable and the county prosecutor's office stated that since it was a breach of contract it was not a civil matter. 

More specific: He stole months of rent and utility payments from a tenant (and threatened to evict her!) so we didn't see rent on that unit until we got a new property manager involved, and so we are still digging out from the lost rent and back utility payments. He also did a very superficial rehab job, so we spent several thousands more on the unit when the new PM took over. I had to pay contractors he stiffed in order to remove liens and refinance the property. 

Same guy handled a triplex rehab (the one with the theft), and that's where he took money that he simply pocketed or used in some sort of Ponzo scheme to pay off other debts (I have no way to know, but the money did not go to contractors or to continue work at the site). Much of the work that was done had to be redone, especially due to stolen wiring, cabinets, etc. I basically ended up paying for the rehab twice and lost tens of thousands of dollars to make sure my lenders were all paid back. I also had to pay contractors he stiffed in order to remove liens so I could sell the property.


 Brutal. Who was it? I wonder if I've heard of the guy.

Elliott Taylor. 

Such a class act that he actually accused me of still owing him money.

Post: Lead Paint Certification

Eric PrescottPosted
  • Investor
  • Union County, NJ
  • Posts 92
  • Votes 52

Long story, but he stole tens of thousands of dollars from us and other investors and contractors. Likely that he faked a robbery at a construction site, though I can't prove it, but it was after that when things went downhill. He was sued by the state on various charges like telecommunications and identity fraud, but was slapped on the wrist. I was not able to sue because lawyers thought he would be uncollectable and the county prosecutor's office stated that since it was a breach of contract it was not a civil matter. 

More specific: He stole months of rent and utility payments from a tenant (and threatened to evict her!) so we didn't see rent on that unit until we got a new property manager involved, and so we are still digging out from the lost rent and back utility payments. He also did a very superficial rehab job, so we spent several thousands more on the unit when the new PM took over. I had to pay contractors he stiffed in order to remove liens and refinance the property. 

Same guy handled a triplex rehab (the one with the theft), and that's where he took money that he simply pocketed or used in some sort of Ponzi scheme to pay off other debts (I have no way to know, but the money did not go to contractors or to continue work at the site). Much of the work that was done had to be redone, especially due to stolen wiring, cabinets, etc. I basically ended up paying for the rehab twice and lost tens of thousands of dollars to make sure my lenders were all paid back. I also had to pay contractors he stiffed in order to remove liens so I could sell the property.

Post: Lead Paint Certification

Eric PrescottPosted
  • Investor
  • Union County, NJ
  • Posts 92
  • Votes 52
Quote from @James Wise:
Quote from @Eric Prescott:
Quote from @Bob Stevens:
Quote from @Calum Bressington:

I recently bought a new rental and the previous property management told me I need to get a lead paint inspection every two years in Cleveland, does anyone know anything about this?

Thanks

 Yes simple, you have it inspected by a led cirt guy, 500 per door. Of course, plus any work required.  We have past about 350 over the last two years . Good news is the FED reimburses you $750 ,so you actually make money, 


 Where do you go to request the reimbursement?


The notion that you actually make money during the lead certification process is a complete fabrication. Before anyone viewing this thread takes any advice from "Bob Stevens" I recommend you click the link below.

 Who is Bob Stevens AKA Bob Prisco and what's his involvement in Cleveland?

Thanks for the heads-up. I did contact the LeadSafe incentive folks and verified that my property was eligible for the incentive, so I am grateful for that, but this is a good reminder to verify everything one comes across in this business. My wife and I were ripped off big-time by a Cleveland con artist over the course of several months between 2023-2024, so we learned this lesson the hard way. 

Post: Any successful BRRR in OHio?

Eric PrescottPosted
  • Investor
  • Union County, NJ
  • Posts 92
  • Votes 52

Yes, I understand that appreciation often means less cash flow and good cash flow typically means weaker appreciation, but there is a sweet spot where there is decent appreciation and sufficient cash flow to cover expenses so that the property pays for itself, and that is what I'm honing in on. 

Appreciate the recommendation to look by neighborhood vs zip. 

Post: Any successful BRRR in OHio?

Eric PrescottPosted
  • Investor
  • Union County, NJ
  • Posts 92
  • Votes 52
Quote from @Kerlous Tadres:
Quote from @Akshay Bhaskaran:

Hello BP Community,

I'd like to connect with you to get your knowledge and experience on any of your BRRRs in Ohio. It can be anywhere in OH -- Cleveland, Columbus, Akron, or anywhere, and here's what I'm specifically looking for:

1. What are some of the cities in OH that you would recommend to invest? Cleveland, Akron, Columbus is all I know.
2. I've always had an assumption that OH is a Ca$h Flow market and not an Appreciation market. I mean, once we get off-market property and do some rehab, we can force appreciate it, but what about the later natural appreciation?
3. When you invest in OH, I've heard some good schools, and some decent employers like Progressive, Cleveland Clinic etc. -- but, which one would you choose and why? Coz Strongsville has good schools, but less employers. 

Looking forward to getting some great guidance from you all on getting my BRRR started in Ohio.


Hey Akshay,

I invest here in the Columbus market and there are some really affordable deals here. I can say that Columbus is more of an appreciation market than the other markets. Let me know if you have any questions for me


What neighborhoods or zip codes in Columbus are best for appreciating SFR's that cash flow enough to pay for their own upkeep, and which attract solid tenants who stick around a good 5-7 years?

Post: Are there no actual property owners on BP?

Eric PrescottPosted
  • Investor
  • Union County, NJ
  • Posts 92
  • Votes 52

My wife and I had a lot of money stolen from us by a so-called property manager in Cleveland (who was later brought to court by the attorney general due to other crimes he committed) and we ended up being able to place the property with Re/Max Haven Realty. 

The experience with them has been more professional overall. We actually get rent payments, for example. One of the main drawbacks is that they add fees for nearly everything. I'm used to paying a 10% management fee in other markets that covers the costs of paying utilities, etc., but RHR charges $10 per bill payment, a fee for renewing rental registration, fuel surcharges for service calls, etc. These charges have added up because of all the things that have had to happen as management of the property changed hands. 

The other thing that has been a problem is that the accounting has been very disorganized. They paid some very large overdue utility bills (the previous "property manager" pocketed the tenant's money and never paid them) *twice*, which was very costly, on top of all the work we had to do to the property that was neglected by the previous "manager," plus having not received rent for 5 months due to the previous "manager." As we try to catch up on those back utility bills with the tenant, they have applied part of a rent payment toward the utility catch-up even though the tenant made a separate payment to catch up on the utilities, as previously agreed and discussed with RHR specifically (an installment plan to pay the entire past-due amount back). 

So I am having to stay on top of them much more than I would like to in order to get the accounting sorted out. I have taken over paying the utilities myself (autopay) to avoid the $10 bill pay fees and, once the tenant is caught up on utilities, this should also be less of a pain. Plus, all that work they had to do on the property after they took over because the previous guy did not do his job is just about caught up, so there will be fewer service calls and related expenses like fuel surcharges. So in a few months I think most of my pain points with them will have finally faded and I feel like I can count on them to manage the property professionally and make sure those owner draws are paid out on time.

Post: Real estate friendly bank

Eric PrescottPosted
  • Investor
  • Union County, NJ
  • Posts 92
  • Votes 52

You could also look into non-recourse loans. Higher down payments, adjustable rates, but it would allow you to leverage instead of paying all cash.

Post: Lead Paint Certification

Eric PrescottPosted
  • Investor
  • Union County, NJ
  • Posts 92
  • Votes 52
Quote from @Bob Stevens:
Quote from @Calum Bressington:

I recently bought a new rental and the previous property management told me I need to get a lead paint inspection every two years in Cleveland, does anyone know anything about this?

Thanks

 Yes simple, you have it inspected by a led cirt guy, 500 per door. Of course, plus any work required.  We have past about 350 over the last two years . Good news is the FED reimburses you $750 ,so you actually make money, 


 Where do you go to request the reimbursement?

Post: First Post: Overwhelmed and can't figure out where to invest

Eric PrescottPosted
  • Investor
  • Union County, NJ
  • Posts 92
  • Votes 52
Quote from @Jennifer Cramer:
Quote from @Chris Seveney:

@Jennifer Cramer

This is a great question and this is very common when getting started. I love the fact that you set your target budget, down payment etc. While you mention you don’t care if you make money you don’t want to lose, as an investor a goal should be to make money. Of course the education you will obtain from your first rental will be worth the price of admission.

As it relates to areas, I think you need to visit the area where you want to invest. I would say out of the options you chose, I would not do Maine. The reason being is your costs are not as easily controlled. You may have to cover utilities which can be super high depending on the winter as well as snow removal etc.

I would look toward an area that is desirable. For east coast areas, parts of Virginia, Maryland, both Carolina’s and Georgia should be looked at.

Lastly make sure to do a thorough job of interviewing the property manager

I would also not rule out parts of Alabama

I was at a conference recently and met with some people from spartan invest who do turnkey rentals. They also manage. A company like that, that is reputable could be considered too



@Chris Seveney

 Thank you so much for the valuable advice!  I didn't even consider outlying factors like snow removal in my calculations!  I will add Alabama to the list of places I'm considering in the East Coast. Right now, I'm focused on finding 2-3 areas to research extensively and then finding a realtor as the first of my core 4.  Funny you mention "turnkey rentals".  It's something I hadn't thought about but willing to explore given my limited time and expertise. It might actually be the best option for my first property. Will start searching the forums for past threads on this topic. Thank you!

If I was in your position I would do turnkey with reputable operators. Stick with your criteria--you can find turnkey for $300k in some A neighborhoods that turnkey operators sell and manage in--and you likely will end up in a situation with minimal cash flow but long term appreciation. As you take your foot off the gas down the line you will be in a situation to do cash out refis and should be cash flowing on higher rents by then. This is what I would do if starting over and working full time, mainly looking to park the cash in real estate and let it appreciate, which is how real estate wealth is really built over the long term.