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All Forum Posts by: Eric M.

Eric M. has started 72 posts and replied 1510 times.

Post: Need a Creative Lender or Investor

Eric M.Posted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Louisville, KY
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New account with no info looking for 100% financing.

sUrE, i Am iN!

Post: business arrangement as a private money lender

Eric M.Posted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Louisville, KY
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If you buy the property under his LLC, you are toast.

Post: What profit split %?

Eric M.Posted
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  • Louisville, KY
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This always seems like the ideal partnership right? The GC and the money guy? Maybe it is me but this has never worked out for me.

Just look at his job description in your post. He is doing exactly what a GC does...no more no less... and GC's usually get 10% of the budget. So what is the "extra" value to you if he is going to be your 50% partner rather than 10% hired contractor? Is he giving up his GC fee to get 50% of the equity? If he says that, how are you going to track that and make sure he is only charging you his actual costs? (here is a secret, you can't track it) I guarantee even if he says he will do the job for his cost, he will be padding it. Padding is all he has ever known in his career. There are alot of other hidden costs to being a GC (licensing, tools, trucks, insurance, etc) that are not direct costs and hard to quantify per job.

Sure, everyone thinks the idea of having a GC with ownership stake will somehow make him more trustworthy and reliable. I have not found this to be the case unless you are keeping his crew busy 100% of the time and he has no other jobs or clients. You are now the "client" who will understand when he is too busy to show up and he has another angry (paying) client on his *** to finish a job. Which one do you think he sends his crew to?  Your property becomes the one he works on part-time when he has free guys. Your property becomes the one to cut corners on because you are not a paying customer.

And what about his ongoing costs for his crew on your project? How are you paying him for that? Often because he is your partner you give him the full rehab amount up front (sometimes you give him nothing up front but that often backfires too). So when he inevitably has a cash crunch (he is a GC after all) because he has to pay his crew, he is going to tap the funds from your partnership....even to pay for hours worked on other jobs. This is just the nature of the way GC's run their business. They are very very often robbing Peter to pay Paul when cash gets tight.

GC's are used to getting paid as they go. They live on cash flow....often paycheck to paycheck. Flip investors or buy and hold investors don't. We don't get the week to week pay. We have to wait months until the end of the project to get the big payoff. It is different mindset managing your personal money. GC's just have a very hard time with this waiting mentality because their guys have to be paid weekly. They have big expenses. It puts a lot of financial strain and gives them huge incentive to overbill the partnership and divert funds to get cash now rather than wait for the profit split at the end. 

This is my experience. It just doesn't work. Often spectacularly doesn't work. You don't end up getting that super reliable trustworthy GC and you have a harder time "holding him accountable" because now he is your partner and you need to get along....and you hugely overpay compared to just having them as your GC because you will pay him his GC fee whether you know it or not.... then you pay him 50% of the profits on top. And if he ****s up the job as a GC you can't fire him. But on the other hand, if a project starts to go bad and it looks like there might not be much profit at the end to split, he will bail on you. There is no incentive to keep putting in his hours to get nothing at the end. He has no capital at risk. 

Just seems to often turn out the worst of both worlds instead of the best.  GC's are generally very very very bad businessmen. They make bad business partners because they have a different thought process and different pain points. You are his side hustle not his main business so you will be treated accordingly.

Just hire him as your regular GC. Maybe after several deals together you merge into more but not at the beginning.

Post: Starting out with ZERO capital

Eric M.Posted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Louisville, KY
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Quote from @Tanner Van Staveren:

Hello BP community! I have a dream to start my own Real Estate business, but I don't currently have any capital to start with. I have multiple plans and deals that could be arranged in the Kalamazoo/Battle Creek area of Michigan, but without capital it seems impossible. I'm looking for a partner with capital to work with but am struggling with finding one. I'm 100% willing to do any of the work necessary to achieve such an ambitious dream and it starts with a plan. Anyone who is willing to help out in any way would be much appreciated! Looking forward to meeting one of you! 

Not having money is by far the easiest problem to solve. I have money but struggle to have time to find and manage deals. There are lots of us potential JV partners out here.

The ability to find actual, real "good deals" is rare and valuable. If you have multiple actual good deals in the pipeline, post them here and ask for a JV partner. No one is going to go to Kalamazoo and steal your deal. BUT if it is a real deal, you will find the money, guaranteed. I am happy to look at good deals.

Be thorough with the info and the proposal for acquisition, rehab and hold or sale. Sound like you have done your research and if the deal is real, you will find the money.

Post: NEED ADVICE: Want Out of Multifamily Deal

Eric M.Posted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Louisville, KY
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Quote from @Shayne Hastings:

Hello all, 

I'm looking to get out of a 5-unit multifamily property my business partner and I have. We have a 50/50 partnership under our LLC. I want to take my portion and diversify into other properties and he wants to hold. He is not willing to buy me out based on the fair market value of the property and so I'm a bit stuck.

What are some creative ways I can get out of the deal that would be a win-win for both parties?

Cheers!


You are the one who wants out so you are likely going to have to give a discount to entice your partner to buy you out. This should have all been spelled out in the LLC operating agreement from day 1 but most don't seriously consider all the future possibilities.

Post: How do I get my foot in the door of wholesaling?

Eric M.Posted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Louisville, KY
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Quote from @Joseph Stern:

6. Now you will begin advertising the property, common techniques are pulling multi family buyers in your area which you can also pull on a software like batchleads, costar, reanomoy etc, posting on Fb and social media or biggerpockets the details of your deal, or talk to other wholesalers or realtors or may already have established buyers lists.

7. Once you market the property, you will 

This is a fine explanation of what wholesaling is but the crux of the problem is number six and part of seven are now illegal in her state.

Post: How do I get my foot in the door of wholesaling?

Eric M.Posted
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  • Louisville, KY
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Quote from @Shanece Adams:

So, I am new to commercial investing as a whole . I have been doing a ton of reading and learning , But I still have an unanswered question, How do I get started in wholesaling ? How do I reach out to apartment owners ? And what do I say to them in an email when it comes to wanting to buy their property?

2 things. 1. If you are going to do that, be prepared for some angry and aggressive push back from Commercial Brokers. They don't like their deals stolen...especially by unlicensed people. The world of commercial deals is pretty small and it is not easy to fly under the radar.

2. You don't indicate the area you plan to wholesale but considering your profile location, I suggest you do some research on the new Kentucky law passed in March against what most would call wholesaling. I am not a wholesaler and don't understand all the ramifications of this law but it appears to significantly restrict wholesaler's trying to sell a contract.

Post: Eugene becomes 1st Oregon city to ban gas hookups in new home construction

Eric M.Posted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Louisville, KY
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Quote from @Gary L Wallman:
Quote from @Marcus Auerbach:

We are 100% electric in all units for over a decade. A smooth glass cook top is just much easier to clean and open flames are always a concern. As an agent I am well aware about the gas preference, but when you ask most people refer to the old electric coil stoves, which were indeed terrible.

I have a 36" high end electric cooktop in my kitchen and would not trade for a gas burner! The cleaning alone..

But what if it is true the leaking gas in your home is slowly poisoning your family? Why does no one seem to care about that?

 Marcus,

With all due respect, who cares what YOU like. America is about freedom of choice. I prefer gas to any other heating choice. Cleaner, more efficient, less expensive and way more desirable to cook on due its infinite settings and instant response. Heating a whole house, way cheaper and more efficient.

If you want electric, so be it. I do not. Plus I resent government wokesters telling me what I can and cannot have in MY home. Particularly when there is absolutely no logic to it.

We've had it so good for so long in this great country, bureaucrats feel like they need to fix something that is definitely not broken.

Gary


Post: Eugene becomes 1st Oregon city to ban gas hookups in new home construction

Eric M.Posted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Louisville, KY
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Quote from @Henry T.:

Since gas will not be available in new homes then electricity usage will increase.  Where does electricity come from?  61% from fossil fuels.

https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs...

So you are saying it sounds like we can cut the fossil fuels by almost 40%?  Since when is that a bad idea?

But it is not mostly about cutting gas consumption. You do realize the issue is apparently the gas stoves leak gas in the home and can cause health issues for you and especially your kids? Why do people not care about that?

Post: Best way to validate/verify a JV parntership program is legit! Dont want to be scam

Eric M.Posted
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  • Louisville, KY
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I don't know the law precisely but "guaranteeing" a 10% return on this kind of equity investment strikes me that it is a "security". This brings all kinds of regulations and registration requirements withthe SEC.

Definitely an attorney needs to be involved