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All Forum Posts by: Ell Jay Lindsey

Ell Jay Lindsey has started 2 posts and replied 18 times.

Post: How is anyone making $ right now?

Ell Jay LindseyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Grant, FL
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 15
Quote from @Travis Biziorek:

The only answers here are you need different markets or better deals.

That said, if you're executing a true, full BRRRR it's a bit unrealistic to expect to get much cash flow after the fact.

If I can get all my capital back (or real close) I'm content with operating at break even. It's essentially a free property and rents will go up over time, etc.

We're still doing plenty of strong cash flowing deals in Detroit but there's a balance. The more cash you end up leaving in it after a BRRRR the less net cash flow is left (generally speaking).


 Makes sense. 

Post: How is anyone making $ right now?

Ell Jay LindseyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Grant, FL
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 15
Quote from @Michael Smythe:

@Ell Jay Lindsey going to guess that you are referring to Class A properties?

Prices & rates have gone up so much in the last 3-5 years, that these won't cashflow ANYWHERE!

So, you can either accept negative cashflow for 3-5 years or switch to investing in Class B & C properties.

I have seen some D properties 30-45min from my area that barely pencil out but the risk is actually getting tenant to pay so I don't dive into those but agree with what you're saying.

Post: How is anyone making $ right now?

Ell Jay LindseyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Grant, FL
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 15
Quote from @Russell Brazil:

BRRRR is not a cash flow strategy.

Fair enough, what would be a cash flow strategy if not BRRRR? If I put 50% down on an investment it may cashflow but that's basically appreciation play because I'd have so much $ left in the deal & can only do that so many times before I run out of Cash.

Post: How is anyone making $ right now?

Ell Jay LindseyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Grant, FL
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 15
Quote from @Jonathan Pflueger:

I find all my deals off-market. I don’t go through wholesalers and very rarely do I go through an agent (though this does happen from time to time). I live in one of, if not the most, competitive market in the US and I still find deals.

I would recommend finding a niche and getting really good at that. For me, it was cold calling and relationship building. I took a long term approach and it paid off huge. In my market you can drop two deals a year and easily net half a million - so I focussed on quality and not quantity.

Cold calling is not for everyone but there are other methods. The point is, there are plenty of deals everywhere you just need to be in front of this deals (people) when they want to sell. Figure that out and you have got yourself a winning strategy.


2 Deals per year & net half a million? Using the BRRR Strategy? I could also flip homes & Make $...That's just not my goal as I'd like to own the property for the long term just don't want to have negative cash flow if I can help it.

Post: How is anyone making $ right now?

Ell Jay LindseyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Grant, FL
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 15

Hi, I'm a new investor with 2 rental properties (Paid Cash, Full Renovations needed on both so that's where my experience comes from, now their successful rentals) & a fairly successful small multi-family flip out of state. I analyze multiple off-market deals thru wholesalers & my local network that know I'm a "Real" cash buyer on a daily basis and I can't get ANY deals to pencil out to cashflow if using the BRRRR method at 7-8% rates. Cut the purchase by 50% off asking, little to no renovation budget & still deals aren't cash flowing if you pull any money out. What am I missing? How are people making a "business" of investing using this method at this time? Those same deals with logical numbers I can flip & make $15-$20k estimated but personally that's not what I want to do....but is that what most are doing right now just to keep their Real Estate business flowing?

Post: What to do with a (underwater) $1.45M property with a 2.78% mortgage...?

Ell Jay LindseyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Grant, FL
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 15

Why not seller finance it? 

Post: Found a 4-plex with great cash flow but I’m stuck

Ell Jay LindseyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Grant, FL
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 15

Post: Air B'n'B in Lansing, MI

Ell Jay LindseyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Grant, FL
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 15

Anyone have experience with Air B'n'B in the Lansing, Michigan area?