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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 20 posts and replied 958 times.

Post: How to combat the growing hatred for Landlords?

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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Sacramento, CA
  • Posts 1,233
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@Nathan Gesner I try to take all of the effort that many put in trying to convince the cancel culture to stop hating your cause, and pour it into providing valuable information and guidance to a broader audience that needs the unique experiences that we've managed to gather. 

I've got a rather large TikTok following and I'll say this- People take small sentiments and amplify them 100x when they can operate from behind a phone with anonymity and no attachment to a real person. So I dilute those statements back down, ignore them, and stay the course. 

Post: Are homeowners more motivated to sell now?

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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Sacramento, CA
  • Posts 1,233
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@Alvin Sylvain

Sellers we usually deal with have occupied and stable property, not under distress. We also target high yielding properties in markets that don't crash hard. Most of ours were less motivated to sell at the time of the original post because so much was in flux and they were hesitant to give up their rental income for a relatively small check, since the properties we target are worth about 50k/unit at market value in most cases. 

We have noticed that now, as things have started to "normalize" our sellers are back to their normal level of interest in selling, because they own quality high yield properties that are pretty insensitive to market volatility. It's the reason we target this product- for robustness in recessionary environments... and our sellers' stoic behavior is validation if anything. 

What we are finding though, is that the mismanaged, distressed properties we have come across are being sold a bit more desperately. Two big reasons we're seeing here- their owners are likely the type to have poorly managed personal finances as well, or their properties performance has worsened in the light of eviction moratoriums/job loss/ethical ambiguity of poorly selected tenants. We're not getting these deals any cheaper than we ever did, we're just coming across them more often and certainly adding to our holdings when we do. 

Eviction moratoriums have expired and courts have reopened in most places we operate. I don't think they'll last forever, they weren't created due to covid job losses, they were created to buy tenants time while governments figure out their stimulus plans and disburse funds. Courts are a bit backed up now, but they'll normalize too. 


The biggest impact we're seeing on value is the bottleneck in the buyer pool being created by bank tightening. Liquidity requirements are through the roof, buyer and property income are being discounted heavily at the underwriting table, and property documentation is heavily scrutinized to ensure that the banks are reducing risk in their portfolios. I used to get a buyer with 40k in the bank qualified to spend 25k of it on a downpayment towards a property... now that same 25k downpayment has to come from a buyer with 100k in the bank and very little debt. Properties at 10 caps aren't meeting cash flow requirements and buyers are asked to put more money down as a result. These big banks have a lot of commercial property in their portfolios, and A class multifamily. These assets will get CRUSHED, and the banks holding these notes have to make up the losses across other performing asset classes in their portfolios like affordable housing.

When commercial tenants recover, we will see banks loosen up. We'll have some brief euphoria, until the monetary easing is relaxed. If they do it gradually, it'll be a longer but less steep correction that we can all live with a bit more easily.

Post: Bay area Housing 2020- Crash or no crash

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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Sacramento, CA
  • Posts 1,233
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@Justin Thorpe the majority of my investor network is from the bay area, SF and San Jose. Most of them are homeowners with properties valued at approx 1M-2M and have household incomes between 250k-350k with both spouses working. Of course, there are outliers in both directions that are less common. 

Investor money in high priced markets significantly dries up during recessionary times, until values go down. I've observed the following contributing factors:

-Banks discount income heavily on properties, and properties that already didn't meet debt coverage ratios for full leverage fall even shorter. Buyers are then required to put 50+% down on investment property, which increases barriers to entry thus reducing the number of buyers on the market. 

-All cash investors enjoy alternatives of higher volatility in the equities market, and stocks crash fast while real estate lags. Investors are then provided with many alternatives to expensive real estate in anticipation of market values softening in the less illiquid asset classes. 

I've also observed a lot of my high income & high net worth investors (10MM+) selling off secondary properties in expensive CA cities at a high clip right now.

Post: How to Start Real Estate Investing with a Day Job

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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Sacramento, CA
  • Posts 1,233
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@Kai Zhou 

Out of state isn't that hard, you just have to focus on the management and your due diligence process.

You might have some luck finding a provider to sell you property. You will just have to decide how much of a premium you want to pay for service.

Don't go buying a 7-cap in michigan just so you don't have to sweat. If you're going to target midwestern or southern markets, which is where the cash flow is at, you should aim for an honest 10 cap that actually includes a budget for vacancy and maintenance in the pro forma. Since your job is time & emotionally consuming, make sure this high cash flow property is already pretty stable too. No rehabs, seek out tenants paying close to market rents, and pay attention to the tenants' story as well so you have a sense of who is living in your building. 


First year of ownership can be an effort, as even turnkey properties experience tenant turn and maintenance. Minimize the risk of your effort being required, but understand that rental property acquisition and ownership, even with help, is not passive.

Post: Bay area Housing 2020- Crash or no crash

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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Sacramento, CA
  • Posts 1,233
  • Votes 893

Volatility and affordability are inversely proportional. The average home value in the bay area is high relative to the average income in the bay area, when compared to the rest of the country or even other parts of California. It's been quite the bull rush, and when the tides turn it tends to fall from the top harder than the middle. Intrinsic value looks low in a lot of expensive CA markets now, and a recession is the ultimate truth serum that will return properties to their intrinsic value. 

Post: So-anyone still paying rent?

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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Sacramento, CA
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@Meryl McElwain yikes. Does this have anything to do with the laws in cook county? I'm over the border in Indiana and I've got 85% of tenants paying on time across my portfolio, close to 90% by months end through this covid crisis. I've noticed tenants I've gotten from Chicago who have recently moved to Indiana didn't take landlord tenant law as seriously until they realized things were different in IN. 

Sounds like your units are generally working class? I like affordable housing, but I'm really picky about landlord favorability and court process in these situations. I honestly believe STRONGLY that cheaper units will be a higher demand asset class in a recessionary environment once eviction moratoriums are lifted.

I think a lot of tenants don't understand a moratorium on evictions doesn't mean they don't have to pay rent. It just gives them some time to catch up, and if they don't, they're out. 

I hope your portfolio starts to stabilize as the courts open here soon.

Post: Primary or Investment Property?

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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Sacramento, CA
  • Posts 1,233
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Thank you for reading sir! And congratulations!

Post: CapEx/Reserve accounts for each property

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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Sacramento, CA
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@Tyler Smith

No need to add so many layers of organization for a smaller portfolio. Just understand the cost to replace or improve the components of your property (as you very well seem to), and when they will likely need replacement. Keep a total reserve in some account that covers it. When the portfolio grows bigger and bigger, and it becomes hard to track, start creating a system to monitor and make adjustments to your reserve. Easy money. 

As far as 10k per 100k SFR... sounds plenty to me but it depends on each property's cosmetic condition, tenant situation, any anything else that could reduce expected income or increase expected expenses! If you're going to rule of thumb it, be extra conservative.

Now go give yourself a reason to build that system :)

Post: Primary or Investment Property?

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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Sacramento, CA
  • Posts 1,233
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@Max Creasy 

the primary vs. investment discussion is just a matter of apples and oranges that ultimately relies on what your wife and yourself decide you WANT for your family. It's just not an and/or, and house hacking is just not something many people want to do. Make sure your wife is happy, and you're happy. If you can agree to underspend on a primary that still suits your short and long term plans for your family, go for that so you have limited debt and a good amount of cash remaining.

Life stage is just such a big factor in willingness to make sacrifices in standard of living. It was very easy for me @22, a single guy, to buy a cheap house in the crash and hack it, then not spend a single dollar until my business and investment portfolio were successful. It pissed my girlfriend at the time off, because I was in a place in my life where I was prioritizing my financial goals now over our relationship. That's not something I would do with my life partner at 31 years old today. I'd just try to purchase prudently, and find a way to go hustle up more money faster to get into an investment. 

You'll make the right choice if you do what makes you happy!

Post: Wholesale deal in 30 minutes

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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Sacramento, CA
  • Posts 1,233
  • Votes 893

Honestly, I do it in 6 states right now and 80% of my deals come from my top market. Find your goldmine and mine it!