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All Forum Posts by: Ed S.

Ed S. has started 5 posts and replied 22 times.

Post: Delayed Financing in Indiana

Ed S.Posted
  • Investor
  • Indianapolis, IN
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 6

Joe, I believe you will need to season title for six months prior to qualifying for conventional, delayed financing since most lenders consider delayed financing a "cash out." I can introduce you to a couple leaders in Indiana to confirm. PM me. 

Post: Indianapolis Sewer Referral?

Ed S.Posted
  • Investor
  • Indianapolis, IN
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 6

Just a few tips on sewer hookups in Marion County:

Ask for referrals. There were a couple bad contractors that were working on the STEP program in Marion County the last couple of years that did very poor work. Multiple people in my neighborhood had issues. One contractor sued two homeowners for complaining about the poor job they did on AngiesList.com

It's very important that they backfill the trench with gravel.

They should also provide a locator line (just a piece of wire) up to your house, and a cleanout port. The locator line helps the utility company mark your sewer line when you have your utilities marked prior to digging in the yard somtime in the future.

Price should include empytying the septic tank (if applicable) and collapse/abandonment of the tank (a legal requirement).

Have them cure any permit defects/violations at no additional cost prior to them receiving final payment.

Do not pay more than 25% up front.

Keep them off your driveway. Keep the gravel off the drive and out of the yard if possible.

I also recommend having them regrade and seed your lawn after the job. Some people in my neightborhood got one contractor to throw that in for free.

Everything above needs to be spelled out in the estimate they give you.

Have them provide you a currently-dated proof of insurance.

Don't pay more than $3,000 for the hookup. If it's a short distance from road to house, easily accessible, no trees, etc., you should be able to get the job done for around $2,000.

Hope this helps. Good luck.

Post: Looking for Delayed Financing Source

Ed S.Posted
  • Investor
  • Indianapolis, IN
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 6

OK, thanks for the info. Here is a related question: If I were to wait 6 months and do a cash out refi, with a conventional lender, are there conventional lenders that will allow the property to be in the name of the LLC, or alternatively, allow a quitclaim to me personally for lending, then back to the LLC, without triggering another seasoning period?

Post: Looking for Delayed Financing Source

Ed S.Posted
  • Investor
  • Indianapolis, IN
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 6

Hey all you BRRR experts out there....

I am looking for a source for delayed financing for a BRRR property. I purchased the property with cash 4 months ago, and want to finance it now (as opposed to waiting 6 months for a conventional refi) on a traditional, fixed rate, 20 year note. Property is in Indiana. The property is held in an LLC of which I am 100% owner (I'm willing to to a quit claim the property to me personally to satisfy underwriting requirements as long as that doesn't trigger a 6 month seasoning requirement).

Looking for a funding source that will lend at 70-75% appraised value, not just the purchase price. I paid $30k, invested $23k, and the property appraised at $80k. I am looking for at least 70% of the appraised value, or $56K. 

Property is freshly rented on a 48 month lease with above-market rents.

Any suggestions on what companies do these loans based on appraised value rather than purchase price?

Many thanks. 

Post: Air conditioner dilemma

Ed S.Posted
  • Investor
  • Indianapolis, IN
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 6

I am considering replacing a split system air conditioner/furnace in a 1000 sq. ft. 3/1 rental home with a new 2 ton AC unit and a 70k BTU gas furnace. The AC was not cooling when I bought the place. I plan to own this house for up to 20 years as a rental.

The prices I have been quoted are $3,500 and $4,000 total for time and material. Does that sound high? I have been told there are seasoned, licensed pros in Indiana that will do this job for about $2,500. If so, I haven't yet found them. What are your experiences? The units being quoted are not top-shelf. They are "contractor grade," and both carry a ten year warranty. One AC unit gets neutral reviews on line, and the other seems to get poor reviews. 

Both contractors said the existing system was holding a charge when they tested it, but they recommended replacing everything anyway if I planned to hold the property as a rental. The gas furnace was manufactured in 1955, and is inefficient by today's standards. 

This is a very simple house with a simple AC unit, and the indoor unit is about 15 feet from the outdoor unit. All venting is in tact and in great shape. 

I read a book recently where the investor rips out central air when he buys rentals because of the headaches they present. He allows window units to be used by tenants. I just replaced the windows in this house so I'm not sure I want the tenants jamming window units in. Does anybody delete central air from their properties like this? How much would it affect rent? What are your experiences with window units? Do they damage vinyl windows?

Post: Tax and Single-Member Business Entity Questions

Ed S.Posted
  • Investor
  • Indianapolis, IN
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 6

I've seen a lot of excellent threads on the site about business formation and taxes. I was hesitant to post on them because most of the recommendations say, "it depends on the particular situation."

I am posting the following with the hopes that it fits other investors' goals and business plans.

Example - Investor is full time employee of a manufacturing company and earns salary plus bonus. She is married, filing jointly, and is in 33% tax bracket before any real estate income. Investor loves her "day job" and wants to remain employed there.

She will start flipping houses this year, and wants to minimize taxes, but also wants to reinvest all after-tax revenue from flipping. At first, all after-tax revenue will fund future flips. Then the plan would be to start using that cash for down payments on conventionally-financed, buy-and-hold properties residing in a separate, single-member business entity (form yet to be determined).

The goals of the business plan are to flip 4 to 10 properties per year, and eventually hold a combination of single- and multi-family properties that generate over $4,000 pre-tax income per month. The expected first year, pre-tax flipping income is $50-100k.

The exit strategy is to cash out some properties starting in 6 years for dependents' college tuition. The rest of the properties will be held and drawn down during retirement and/or passed to her kids in her estate. Along the way, some rentals will be bought and sold to maximize profitability of the rental portfolio. She hopes to scale the rental business and hire a property management company (1099) to manage all doors.

Investor is also a broker, and would like to reinvest any commissions, rather than take them as salary or dividend (unless this really screws up tax treatment somehow). 

Questions:

1) As mentioned above, investor is interested in reinvesting in future flips and ultimately (in a couple years) buy-and-hold down payments. She doesn't need a "salary" from the flipping business, but is not opposed to taking some income as salary or distributions to reduce any unnecessary tax burden. What types of single-member business entities should be used for both the flipping and the rental businesses given these goals?

2) Investor and spouse have two vehicles - a pickup truck that ends up being used to haul construction material, and a small sedan. She would like to write off the pickup. How much of the truck can be written off? Does the truck need be titled to the flipping company to be written off?

3) What are the "write-offs" the investor should take to (legally) maximize beneficial tax treatment? E.g - Home office? Travel? Mileage? Office supplies? Accountant?

Many thanks.

Post: C-Corp or S-Corp

Ed S.Posted
  • Investor
  • Indianapolis, IN
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 6
Originally posted by @Mike McDermott:

...

...there is a great accounting maneuver that accomplishes the same effect as an S-corp up to about $60,000 of ordinary income. (This description of this procedure is too long for this post, but I will address it in the future.)

[and]

Without going into the detail of this, an LLC is easier to maintain than a corporation AND if offers some protections that a corporation doesn't. Again, watch for future posts.

Mike, good info. Did you ever post any more posts regarding the spousal $60k threshold or converting LLC to S-corp treatment and why?

I'm specifically interested in knowing the recommended business entity for a single-member organization strictly for flipping houses. Federal tax rate would be 33% (MFJ) before adding flip income. 

The business plan calls for building up enough income over two years to afford the down payment for a decent-sized multifamily. So, a related question becomes: can single-member LLC#1 (or S-corp) transfer money to single-member LLC#2 tax-free to allow LLC#2 to use the LLC#1 profits from the flips for the down payment on a multifam buy-an-hold?

I know this is a relatively complex set of facts, but I would imagine it's common for folks to flip properties to be able to later acquire buy-and-holds. 

Post: Motley Fool and Rentals

Ed S.Posted
  • Investor
  • Indianapolis, IN
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 6

Bill, thanks for posting this. I am a paying member of Motley Fool Stock Advisor newsletter. I have found there are two things that MF is biased against: personal real estate investment and (non-index) mutual funds. It might be the cynic in me, but I tend to think this is because MF makes no money off of either of these investment types, and view them as a competitive threat to their fee-based news letters and stock tip sheets.

Jay Jenkins, the author, has painted a relatively bleak narrative about real estate investment by choosing the hypothetical he does. He could have just as easily described the sample house to be cash-flow positive and profitable for the investor in spite of the operating and holding costs he stated. We hear these success stories all the time on BP. Instead, he chose the "REI is scary" narrative. Then, in the last paragraph of the article, he shamelessly plugs a fee-based stock research service:

"Of the Fool’s 575+ stock picks, which 3 should you buy right now? For a limited time you can discover which 3 Motley-Fool-recommended stocks hedge fund veteran and Motley Fool Million Dollar Portfolio advisor Ron Gross has put $192,197 of our company’s own money behind -- and why -- by simply clicking here."

I've grown weary of receiving so much advertising from MF, both within the newsletter I am already paying for (upsell), and in my e-mail in-box. It makes me less trusting of their research.

I think Jay is an honest author. Heck, he even mentions owning a rental. However, I think he has a natural bias against REI.

Regardless, it's important for all real estate investors to learn from others' mistakes, and make sure each deal is properly vetted before jumping in. In this way, Jay does his audience a favor.

Post: New member from Indianapolis, IN

Ed S.Posted
  • Investor
  • Indianapolis, IN
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 6

Welcome @Yang Xiao. I hope to meet you at a local meeting soon.

Post: Greetings from Milwaukee, Wisco

Ed S.Posted
  • Investor
  • Indianapolis, IN
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 6

Welcome Matt.