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All Forum Posts by: Jason E. Smith

Jason E. Smith has started 3 posts and replied 192 times.

Post: Investing in 401k/SEP IRA vs buying another rental annually

Jason E. SmithPosted
  • Contrarian Investor
  • Greensboro, NC
  • Posts 219
  • Votes 174

Jason, lots of great responses already.  I still have a W2 and I contribute 7% only because my employer will match 50% up to 7%.  So I contribute 7% just to get the "free" money.  But my choices inside that retirement account are about twenty different options, none of which I would invest in if it was outside a controlled account.  Therefore I don't contribute anything above the 7%.  A great resource for talking about retirement fund options would be @Josh Plave and I also would recommend speaking to @Tamiel Kenney or @Brent Kawakami about how cost segregation in large multifamily could have great impact on reducing your taxes.  Hope that helps!  Happy New Year! 

Post: Multifamily investment in Research Triangle Park, NC area

Jason E. SmithPosted
  • Contrarian Investor
  • Greensboro, NC
  • Posts 219
  • Votes 174

Subbu, The quantity of commercial multifamily listed on the MLS will be very small. In North Carolina roughly 60% of commercial multifamily is traded off market via relationships. And the properties that are marketed you would need to be on the brokers list to receive the offering as properties become marketed. I recommend a phone call with Mark Kenney and @Brent Kawakami. He could help guide you because buying 20 units takes about the same effort or more than buying 200 units. And with 20 units you typically can’t afford on site staff so it’s actually more challenging to operate anything between 20-100 units. Once over a hundred you can afford on site staff which makes it much easier and cost effective. I’ve tagged Brent in this post, but if you would like me to introduce you to Mark and see if/how we could help let me know. Thank you!

Post: Multifamily investment in Research Triangle Park, NC area

Jason E. SmithPosted
  • Contrarian Investor
  • Greensboro, NC
  • Posts 219
  • Votes 174

Subbu, Hope you and your family had a Merry Christmas!  Are you looking for residential Multifamily (2-4 units) or 5-100 units or 100+ unit Multifamily properties?  Let me know which you're interested in and I can better help.  Thank you!

Post: NC properties YOU have bought or sold in 2020

Jason E. SmithPosted
  • Contrarian Investor
  • Greensboro, NC
  • Posts 219
  • Votes 174

Daniel, I’m curious if you bought your property before or after Covid?  We don’t buy in the outer banks nor do we buy vacation rentals. Sorry I can’t help there. We just buy 100+ unit apartments. 2020 has definitely been an interesting year. A lot of people and capital leaving urban core areas and migrating out to the suburbs. Definitely didn’t see that coming. Restaurants being ordered to shut down and about an eighty percent reduction in air travel. I’ll be curious how some of these economic shock factors play out in the coming years. 

Post: Charlotte commercial multifamily

Jason E. SmithPosted
  • Contrarian Investor
  • Greensboro, NC
  • Posts 219
  • Votes 174

Definitely great things to consider Nicholas! And I agree staying disciplined this late in the cycle is very important. We’ve already seen some seasoned investors begin to get more lax in their criteria. I think one important consideration on the commercial side is the debt structure being used today. We’re using 3,1,1 on our bridge debt. So we will begin implementing our business plan on day one, hopefully in two years we’re ready to refinance and put long term agency debt on. With the bridge debt we’re using there’s typically no prepayment penalty like agency debt. So if we are all done with our business plan in two years, the economy is still good, debt terms are favorable then we refi. If the economy is deep in recession we can wait because not only would we still have another year left on the debt but we would have two one year extensions. So that structure gives us about a four year window to refinance out of bridge into long term agency debt. That’s a big window, most recessions last about eighteen months so there’s plenty of a window of time to secure proper long term debt.

I think another concern I’m seeing today is the lack of risk adjustment being placed on C class and D class assets. Five years ago the spread between A class and C class was about two hundred basis points. Today it’s probably about twenty basis points. I think as we get into our next recession I think you’ll see why that risk adjustment was placed on there years ago and I think you’ll see those spreads widen up again but that’s just my opinion. The census data puts out weekly household pulse surveys and the last one I saw gave me the impression that households making under $25k was at higher risk of evection than those of higher incomes. I’ve heard people give opinions of which class will be hit harder but so far the data looks like class C. Sorry for the long winded answer but I hope that helps. Just FYI I began in 2005 so I was invested in several flips that I got stuck with through the GFC, so I’m being more cautious now too.

Post: Charlotte commercial multifamily

Jason E. SmithPosted
  • Contrarian Investor
  • Greensboro, NC
  • Posts 219
  • Votes 174

Nicholas,

We’re having success finding deals, we currently have nine apartment communities under contract. Only two are here in NC, although none specifically in Charlotte. That market seems to have become too competitive for our numbers to make sense. Our advantage is we operate as a group and have active members in many MSA’s across the US. We focus on MSA’s with population growth, job growth, landlord friendly, etc. The deals making sense for us these days are deals with a story to them. One was owned for 20+ years by two elderly aunts who had their cousin running the property. One was being sold by the developer who built the property over forty years ago, never did any interior renovations and barely raised rents. Two are forced sellers because of partnership disputes. Those are deals where our returns work. The deals that are on value add 3.0 or 4.0 and have only been owned a couple years and rents are very close to market just don’t fit our criteria. We won’t pivot to another asset class because it takes years to build the relationships in the business, establish a track record, gain confidence in industry standards, find great property managers, great vendors, etc. It’s definitely more challenging finding deals that make sense today but I don’t think it will stay that way forever and I think a key today is being open to a few different markets and having a great team so you have more eyes looking. Hope that helps!

Post: Closing Attorneys in NC

Jason E. SmithPosted
  • Contrarian Investor
  • Greensboro, NC
  • Posts 219
  • Votes 174

Jamall, you could try Ralph Bunch, not sure if he does that or not but he's always been a good attorney to work with.  And @Ian Kurela or @Kevin Stringari may know an attorney to help. And last option I have would be to reach out to the Triad REI and ask if someone could help.

Post: SFH Lender Recomendation

Jason E. SmithPosted
  • Contrarian Investor
  • Greensboro, NC
  • Posts 219
  • Votes 174

Joel, I recommend Ruth Hudspeth with Fairway Independent mortgage 

Post: Newbie in Winston Salem NC, if you are in NC let me know!

Jason E. SmithPosted
  • Contrarian Investor
  • Greensboro, NC
  • Posts 219
  • Votes 174

Hey Kenny, I was responding to another post when this thread appeared as a potential discussion.  I was curious to know, did you buy an investment property?  Are you still interested?  Did you make great connections?

Post: North Carolina mortgage broker?

Jason E. SmithPosted
  • Contrarian Investor
  • Greensboro, NC
  • Posts 219
  • Votes 174

Ruth Hudspeth of Fairway Independent Mortgage.  Her cell phone is listed on her webpage, wouldn't surprise me if she helped on the weekend.