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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 2 posts and replied 181 times.

Post: Are you a Member of your local REI Club?

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  • Wholesaler
  • Chicago, IL
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I'm also a paid member of the WCRT and have been for just over a year now. I've gained a TON of knowledge from each and every meeting. There is a main meeting on the first Thursday of every month (today) which are great for networking and meeting other investors in the field. There are also multiple subgroup meetings around the Chicagoland area that are more informal and great for networking on a 1 on 1 level.

Every other club I've been to in the area had some kind of sales pitch. The presentations and the networking were helpful, however, they didn't come without a price and a pitch. @Account Closed really stresses the concept of ZERO SALES at the WCRT meetings which is why I continue to attend them.

And the first meeting is free! So what do you have to lose? I HIGHLY recommend all investors (newbies or seasoned) to at least check one of these out. And I hope it will do as much for you as it has done for me.

Post: Hiring Interns for your REI Business

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  • Wholesaler
  • Chicago, IL
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Originally posted by Kelvin K.:
I ddnt see what ken larchers was referring to. U musta alrdy complied w his warnings! Haha.. darn..

No actually Ken never followed through with anything he threatened me with. I took the site down because I'm focusing on building my core real estate business now.

And William Bannister, I think you have the wrong idea. I was offering to coach individuals (for free) on how to start making money in real estate. I'm not looking for free labor. I'm offering my valuable time to teach others to become successful.

I'm actually charging for my coaching now because there are too many people asking for it and I just don't have the time to coach everyone.

Post: The Truth about Wholesaling!

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  • Wholesaler
  • Chicago, IL
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Originally posted by Joel Owens:
I think Will that many people do wholesaling merely as the way they need to start out and it's not their choice of an RE path.

Some might stay in that niche but many just use it as a jumping off platform.

Of course if you are already sitting on a bunch of cash then you do not have to go this route.

Well said Joel!

Originally posted by Will Barnard:
I hear what you are saying Joel, but like I have stated many times, just because you don't have money does not mean that wholesaling is the only way to get started!

For instance, my very first rehab flip project took over $375k in capital, yet I completed it with less than $5k of my own money and made over $90K profit! Not too many wholesale deals out there with that profit margin, granted it took me 4 months, but regardless, it was done with very little of my own money. Point being, just because one does not have their own capital does not preclude thjem from any RE strategy.

That's a great deal Will! I'm sure you were sold on the idea of real estate after that one..haha.

Regardless of the stunning cash on cash return on this deal, the bottom line is that it still cost you $5k. Although this is not a large sum, a lot of people trying to get started don't have $5k to spend and 4 months to wait. Wholesaling provides the opportunity to make 4 or 5 figures off deals with almost no money (or a few hundred bucks at that.)

Nevertheless, props to you Will on that deal.

Post: The Truth about Wholesaling!

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  • Wholesaler
  • Chicago, IL
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Originally posted by Lucy Rowens:
After reading your unfortunate experience with a wholesaler, it makes me leary and want to change ships again. I'm a newbie, have not done any deals yet but was so hoping to start with Wholesaling as a means of supplementing my income. So now what in your opinion would be the safest, quickest, easiest way to start? Thanks in advance
Originally posted by Will Barnard:
@Jimmy & Morris - I did infomr them of the actual and true numbers and took it a step further. I informed them in writing (via email) that I would keep an eye on the property and any future public recordings (transfers of title) to make sure some other investor does not get taken.

I will wait and see if they ignore or act upon my advice, ball is in their court now.

Wholesaling is still the safest, quickest, easiest way to start. That situation does not apply to all wholesalers (just some.)

Post: The Truth about Wholesaling!

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  • Wholesaler
  • Chicago, IL
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Originally posted by Isaiah Gaines:
@Bill Gulley I intend in my contract to disclose that the contract will be/can be assigned to a 3rd party buyer. I believe that would cover me in regards to acting in good faith. If this is not sufficient is there any method that is utilized to inform buyer of this?

Another clause I would put in there is "In the case of buyer's default, EMD is the sole remedy."

$10 EMD will limit your liability. Some sellers won't like it but just explain to them that that is your policy and you do that on every contract. If they don't like it still, tell them you will be moving on to another property. Simple as that. They aren't truly motivated if the EMD is a deal breaker for them.

Other than that, just be as upfront and honest as possible with your sellers. Honesty is the easiest way to go about it and will ensure that there are no surprises down the road to closing.

Post: The Truth about Wholesaling!

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  • Wholesaler
  • Chicago, IL
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  • Votes 38
Originally posted by Isaiah Gaines:
First and foremost that you for creating this sticky as it is very helpful and informative.

As a newbie at real estate wholesaling here in New York City most investors dont want to do deals with someone that is not experienced and will not offer any pointers. I have found most of my local investors by responding to ads on craigslist and asking questions on preferences that they have.

I have not done my first deal as of yet as for two main reasons:

1.I was always hung up on the contractual part of the wholesaling process and consulted with my lawyer. I was informed that even though I am attempting to assign my contract to another buyer IF I cannot find a buyer for any reason I/my LLC can be sued for "Specific Performance". To those that are experienced wholesalers what are your remedies to avoid this situation? (I thought of clauses in the contract that would state myself/seller can cancel the contract at any time/any reason via written notice. Would that work? What if they are adamant on drawing up a contract? An addendum is only valid if both parties agree and sign it or else the origional contract stands )

2. The comps. I attempted to get comps from zillow and remax for properties in my local area but the numbers didnt add up. I have seen most investors wont go higher than 70% ARV or they will consider it a bad deal however some are flexible. Are there more accurate ways to perform a comp on a particular property.

Also any nice words of advise would be appreaciated as well.

First of all, I'm not an attorney so don't listen to me (disclaimer.)

1. The seller can't sue you for specific performance if you have the right clauses in your contract (contract contingent on buyer securing funds from 3rd party buyer, contract contingent on partners approval, contract contingent on passing inspection, etc.) These will protect you and allow you to back out of the contract if you really need to. That being said, don't ever sign a contract unless you know you can find a buyer for it. Backing out of contracts regularly is just bad business and will give you a bad rep.

2. Work with a realtor that will pull comps for you. In exchange, you can refer to him/her all your unused leads that you get. They should be able to pull good comps and give you an accurate ARV of the subject property.

Hope this helps!

Post: Creative real estate lead generation

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  • Wholesaler
  • Chicago, IL
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Originally posted by Brooks Conkle:
@Philip Accardo
-I use hand written bandit signs for my Retail buyers (most folks are used to using them for investors or home sellers).
-I place 5-10 around my listings.
-I make them hand written (higher conversion rate).
-I also have our number with an extension including a recording with the address, house info, etc. - if they want more info, then they leave a message - they will also probably drive past the property.
- I actually prefer the hand written sign in the yard (I place our professional sign in the window). I know that many agents are concerned with the professional looks of their signs - but I'm more concerned with selling the properties.

Hand written signs are proven to work better than professionally printed signs. People see so many professional signs that they start to ignore most of them. The hand written ones are the ones people stop and look at to read.

Post: Creative real estate lead generation

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  • Wholesaler
  • Chicago, IL
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Originally posted by Philip Accardo:
Real estate sales - listings and buyer clients.

Philip makes a great point here. You can rack up much more leads, much more quickly, simply by building off the ones you already have. Ask each buyer and seller you work with for a couple referrals. You don't need to nag them about it, just ask them if they know anyone that could benefit from your services.

Chances are, an experienced buyer is going to know more experienced buyers. Vice versa, potential sellers are going to know other people that might want to sell their homes.

Post: New member from Chicago

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  • Chicago, IL
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Mike Hasemann, great post! You just gave a ton of great info in that last post. Thanks!

Post: The Truth about Wholesaling!

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  • Wholesaler
  • Chicago, IL
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Originally posted by Tamara Sankey:

Thank God we have BP :)

Amen to that! haha