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All Forum Posts by: Duane Ortega

Duane Ortega has started 1 posts and replied 154 times.

Post: Need help explaining a double escrow!

Duane OrtegaPosted
  • Transactional Funder
  • Neptune, NJ
  • Posts 187
  • Votes 85

@Jeshua Patrick - wholesalers can still double close using separate funds such as transactional funding.  What was being described was using C buyer's funds to pay off AB which was illegalized 10 years ago.

Post: Need help explaining a double escrow!

Duane OrtegaPosted
  • Transactional Funder
  • Neptune, NJ
  • Posts 187
  • Votes 85

@Lori Greene - The video explanation is exactly what propelled the transactional funding industry 10 years ago.  It is NOT legal, from my knowledge, to use C buyer's funds to pay off AB transaction.  This created lots of fraud and title company underwriters such as First American sent out letters 10 years ago (I had a copy which I have misplaced since) that buyers must have separate and good funds and cannot use other parties' funds.  Also in the video, it says to close on BC first and then payoff AB.  In addition to it being illegal (ask investor friendly closing agents, transactional funding premise is to provide separate funding), this process of closing on BC first then AB will create a clouded title wouldn't it (rhetorical)?

Post: Question regarding double closings...

Duane OrtegaPosted
  • Transactional Funder
  • Neptune, NJ
  • Posts 187
  • Votes 85

@Christopher Bohar

I believe I know which transactional funding company you are referring to :)

Here is an objective way to look at it (if you don't believe me, you can throw it out):

If you can assign the contract, you don't need to double close. However, if you must double close, you have to have separate good funds for the AB transaction vs. the BC transaction. One cannot use the C buyer's money to purchase the AB transaction. Those days are long gone (8-9 years ago).

You can also confirm everything I said above with PA closing agents.

Please don't feel obligated to use one transactional funder. Google "transactional funding" to come up with a list of companies. Compare and contrast. Read the testimonials if there are any. Verify they are real people on FB or other social media avenues. Contact them. Compare and Contrast. Decide on a company.

Finally, here are some common reasons for double closing:

1. Avoid licensing issues for wholesaling without a license - this issue is gaining popularity accross the U.S. Agents are stating that wholesaling is illegal. Wholesaling is illegal if you are marketing/selling the property. However, wholesaling is actually selling the contract vs. the property. This is a fine distinction, and you don't need a license to sell a contract. Another way to avoid licensing issues is to become a realtor.

2. If you don't want to assign the contract because you don't want the buyer to know how much profit you are making. Let's say you are buying a property for 75K and want to resell it for 105K FMV (30K wholesale fee). Even though 105K is fair market value, the C buyer would be appalled by you making too much money. He would rather offer you 5K-10K which would probably be the normal rate. Otherwise, he would walk away or find a way to circumvent you. If you decide to double close/same-day back-to-back closing with the same closing agent, you can avoid this hassle since the two closings are separate. Your negotiations with A seller and C buyer are separate and distinct. You have control of both transactions, lock it up with an executed contract and arrange for both closing to occur on the same day. Of course, C buyer can always look this up in the county records AFTER it closes. But again, at that point, it won't matter. And would you really want to have that buyer on your buyer's list? The buyer should only be concerned about if the transaction works for him and not be worried about everyone else's profit.

3. This is a Short Sale or REO/Foreclosure or HUD - usually, an offer for a Short Sale or REO/Foreclosure will not be accepted if the Buyer is e.g. John Smith "and/or assigns". With these cases you need to close on the property as an entity and then use transactional funding to close and re-sell it to your buyer the same day at the same title company. Most transactional funding companies do not lend to "John Smith," but will lend to "Your company, LLC" due to laws involving residential properties and other laws.

Best wishes on all your endeavors.

Duane.

PS:  @Account Closed

Please check with your local REIA and attorneys and closing agents that are investor-friendly for the laws in New Mexico.

Post: Wholesaling is illegal in NC?

Duane OrtegaPosted
  • Transactional Funder
  • Neptune, NJ
  • Posts 187
  • Votes 85

@Bionca Huntley

I know an attorney in North Carolina who can double close.  PM me.

Post: Looking for transactional lender... hopefully

Duane OrtegaPosted
  • Transactional Funder
  • Neptune, NJ
  • Posts 187
  • Votes 85

@Account Closed

Google "transactional funding" to come up with a list of companies.  Compare and contrast.  Read the testimonials if there are any.  Verify they are real people on FB or other social media avenues.  Contact them.  Compare and Contrast.  Decide on a company.

Post: Wholesaling Craigslist Properties

Duane OrtegaPosted
  • Transactional Funder
  • Neptune, NJ
  • Posts 187
  • Votes 85

@Zachary Helfer

Mindy is correct that you can definitely double close - in this way you are actually buying the property that you have a contract on, or you can become a realtor.  The issue is the newbies are trying to wholesale properties vs. selling their contract on a property.  There is a discussion about this very topic in OH.  PM me if interested.

Post: Double Closing Title Companies In Illinois

Duane OrtegaPosted
  • Transactional Funder
  • Neptune, NJ
  • Posts 187
  • Votes 85

@Tracy Stingley

I know several title companies in IL who double close with transactional funding.  PM me if interested.

Post: Wholesale Deal in VA Beach

Duane OrtegaPosted
  • Transactional Funder
  • Neptune, NJ
  • Posts 187
  • Votes 85

@Carita Yeager

@Carita YeagerYes, after you close on both land and house for 310K with transactional funding, you can just sell the house separately on the same day to an end-buyer for 320K or investor for 258K since they are separate already.  One problem I see is how will you pay off the transactional funder?  With closing costs and fees, 320K may not be enough to pay off the funder and 258K is well below the payoff price.  One thing I can see you doing is selling both the land and house to different people on the same day vs. just selling the house on the same day.  In this way, you will earn more profit by selling them individually and covering your transactional funding costs and closing costs at the same time.  You keep the net from both transactions.

Post: Wholesale Deal in VA Beach

Duane OrtegaPosted
  • Transactional Funder
  • Neptune, NJ
  • Posts 187
  • Votes 85

@Carita Yeager

Transactional funding is used for buying property vs. selling and then selling the same property to another person/entity on the same day.  Given this, do you mean can you buy (vs. sell) both the land and the house using transactional funding?  Answer is yes.  Otherwise, please clarify the question.

Post: Wholesale real estate

Duane OrtegaPosted
  • Transactional Funder
  • Neptune, NJ
  • Posts 187
  • Votes 85

@Aundra Fields

I know several investor friendly title companies in PA that can do double closings.  You can call them and ask them any closing related questions so that way, you hear it from the horse's mouth.  PM me if interested.  Yes, if you close twice, you have to pay 2 closing costs.  However, you can just account for that in the numbers you ask for.