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All Forum Posts by: Drew C Grossman

Drew C Grossman has started 5 posts and replied 129 times.

Post: Looking for advice on our first rental...

Drew C GrossmanPosted
  • Investor
  • Jacksonville, FL
  • Posts 135
  • Votes 106

@Mike Montanye - I own a handful of rentals and manage properties for investors in a market very close to Ocklawaha and I think $1,750 may be a stretch. If the purchase price for the house is $225k, I am assuming the property is in the 1,100-1,300 sqft range which would get in the $1600 range if so. 

I do think markers close by will do very well and I would aim to find something that cash flows AND is still new construction. 

Post: Current NFL Linebacker looking to get into small Multifamily

Drew C GrossmanPosted
  • Investor
  • Jacksonville, FL
  • Posts 135
  • Votes 106

@Vince Biegel - building some duplexes in Central Florida that I am holding as long term rentals. Eventually going to build a triplex or quad but all the land I’ve closed on thus far has been zoned for duplex and I don’t have the build plans for the bigger multi family yet. 

Seeing some good off market land opportunities in some of the Florida Markets. 


Best of luck!

Post: New to the game! looking for any advice.

Drew C GrossmanPosted
  • Investor
  • Jacksonville, FL
  • Posts 135
  • Votes 106

Hi @James Snyder - where ideally do you want to keep your next primary?

Post: 2 KMart conversions to self storage launching back to back!

Drew C GrossmanPosted
  • Investor
  • Jacksonville, FL
  • Posts 135
  • Votes 106
Quote from @Clint Harris:

Lots of driving the last 2 days, but blessed to have great weather, great company, and unbelievable things to celebrate. So cool to see the first two KMart to self storage conversion projects taken on by Erik and Levi of Nomad Capital opening within months of each other. 87,000 sf KMart conversion in Reidsville, NC is now Open and booking up with 43 units rented! Really cool to see that in person with the drive aisle right through the building making it a legit drive-in climate controlled project that just started as an idea in Erik's head. Additional signage, advertising, touchscreen kiosks, and marketing on the way. The KMart conversion in Danville, Va was crazy to see as the units were popping up every few minutes while we watched the crew. 97,000 sf is A LOT of space, luckily the drone made quick work of filming and kept me from jogging it and passing out before I got to what used to be Sporting Goods. We made the rounds in NC and VA, and walked the next 3 in the pipeline with one opening within days, one set for demo and permitting, one under contract closing soon, and even threw in a great evening in Greensboro networking at the Pints&Properties event. Worth every mile. Posting this so this hits my FB timeline every year and I get to look back on the journey with a lot of gratitude and respect for those involved.

Cool project, thanks for sharing!

What was the biggest hurdle of this project? Acquisition? Zoning? The conversion itself?

43 units booked up already..?! Heck that’s more than what I have in total in my first facility lol. Currently working on being about 70 more units online with another buy. 


 

Post: Turn-Key properties in Florida

Drew C GrossmanPosted
  • Investor
  • Jacksonville, FL
  • Posts 135
  • Votes 106

@Sean David Gibson just pm you. 

Post: Self Storage- Deal 13 Los Angeles development

Drew C GrossmanPosted
  • Investor
  • Jacksonville, FL
  • Posts 135
  • Votes 106
Quote from @Henry Clark:

Someone asked me to look at the surrounding Los Angeles area for potential Commercial Deals.  They were wanting to get into Commercial.   I enjoy the challenge sometimes of the Hunt, especially when I don't have to do the follow-up work.  

Zoning is always the first key question on any Commercial development.

Found a piece of bare land.  4 acres for $250,000.  I am more than happy to pay $100,000 per acre to be in or next to a city.

Zoned Industrial- they would have to check on zoning.

Location- next to freeway with intersections/on/off ramps before and after it.

Location- All of the competition is on the other side of the freeway.

Rates- drive up access10 x 20 in the $250 to $300 range; we are at $130 and think it's great.

Construction costs- subject to any local differences, such as permitting or planning, costs will be about the same as ours to develop. Same costs, but almost Double the Rent rate. Means NOI net operating income will be way higher than ours; relative to the same CAP rates as our properties, means it will be double the value.

Financials:

Can do about 300 units on 4 acres.  Around $3.5mm all in.  If you did a Conventional Construction loan Interest only for Construction period and rent up phase of 18 months or 65% occupancy.  10% down since you will convert to SBA loan long-term or $350,000 cash in.  Day one this will appraise around $5mm upon completion.  At 40% occupancy appraise around $6mm.  Will go up slightly from there.

Sounds too good to be true.  Probably is.  Always need Boots on the Ground.

What is wrong with the land?  Will planning and zoning allow it?  Other??????????? 

If this doesn't work, you keep turning the rocks overlooking for gold. After all it is California.

Start small and Make Your Big Mistakes Early.

Hard to do in the Los Angeles market.  Most existing storage locations start at $5mm and go up to $20mm; with 100% occupancy.


 Thanks for sharing, in the process of finding some land right now for my next storage facility!

Best of luck 

Post: Multifamily in Florida

Drew C GrossmanPosted
  • Investor
  • Jacksonville, FL
  • Posts 135
  • Votes 106

Everyone who replied above pretty much hit the nail on the head so won’t repeat!

On top of the areas mentioned above, I would also look into  parts of Jacksonville,  Ocala, Palm Coast and Lakeland. I have some duplex projects in motion and these areas are also where most of the bigger turnkey builders operate. 


The biggest hurdle in most areas in Florida is acquiring land zoned for small multi family at a price that makes sense to build. Small Multi family land in FL is already pretty scarce depending on the market you are looking into. 

Post: best areas in Florida for investment

Drew C GrossmanPosted
  • Investor
  • Jacksonville, FL
  • Posts 135
  • Votes 106
Quote from @Eric Tan:
Quote from @Drew C Grossman:

Ocala, parts of Jacksonville, Palm Coast, Deltona, DeLand 


What are yours specific goals for the investment? 


 thanks for sharing. other than jacksonville, which type of property is best in the other 4 areas for cashflow?

@Eric Tan For long term rental, I would target newly built or turnkey single family homes. (or something you can make turnkey).

Generally speaking for market deals in these areas, the Cash flow will likely be better with single family.

There are also turnkey builders that build and manage sell duplex(s) and quad(s) in these areas but in most cases prices are still pretty high leading to lower cash flow. They sell for a higher $ per sqft compared to single family because of the scarcity and the ability to trade off cap rates (which have compressed a ton over the past few years) leading to higher prices. Florida as a whole has a lack of small multi family (Duplex/triplex/quad) let alone newly built mostly because of zoning. Multi family land is valuable.

Because of this dynamic and with build costs leveling out, I am currently building some Duplexes. Im also considering renting one unit as a medium term 30-90 days to a professional tenant but I need to consider all things. Up to this point, the long term rental approach has worked well for me but I am interested in learning more about medium term rentals.'

Do you have specific goals for this area?

Post: best areas in Florida for investment

Drew C GrossmanPosted
  • Investor
  • Jacksonville, FL
  • Posts 135
  • Votes 106

Ocala, parts of Jacksonville, Palm Coast, Deltona, DeLand 


What are yours specific goals for the investment? 

@Dimitra Manou - look at comparable sales in the MLS or Costar for whatever type of deals you have and reach out to the buyer directly. Since they bought something similar, odds are they could be looking for more!

If you can’t find recent comparisons (since you mentioned it’s a small business) go out a few years. Also try and look close to the subject property or in generally vicinity.