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All Forum Posts by: Darrick P.

Darrick P. has started 8 posts and replied 27 times.

Post: Probably not going to Wholesale. Rehab instead!

Darrick P.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 28
  • Votes 2

Jenkins Ramon it was Fortune Builders. I mentioned this in another post; the seminar itself was well worth the money; $200. During the 3 days they pitched the Mastery Program, they announced the price of the Mastery Program on day 2. The prices were 25k, 20k and 15k. Each level with less features; accordingly. We had no interest in the Mastery Program but are NOT disappointed in the seminar itself. My wife and I got a huge head start in what we hope to be a prosperous future.

Post: Probably not going to Wholesale. Rehab instead!

Darrick P.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 28
  • Votes 2

Manuel Acuna - Thanks for the advice and I respect everyone's opinion about seminars. $200 wasn't breaking the bank and I also think telling people not to attend a low fee seminar is like handing a book to a child and asking them to read without first introducing them to the alphabet.

When you have no idea about REI you have to put a price on rung of the ladder where you want to start. ($197/27hrs)/2 = $3.65 an hr. was priced right for me and my wife. The seminar was very good, the "ad-ons" for the extra stuff, I wasn't interested in.

Karen Margrave - Thanks! We definitely aren't jumping in without doing due diligence. We're building our road map right now and plan on doing everything that you mentioned so when we're ready the only thing we'll have to worry about is; fear! lol

Post: Currently @ Fortune Builders $197 3 day seminar

Darrick P.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 28
  • Votes 2

please delete.

Post: Currently @ Fortune Builders $197 3 day seminar

Darrick P.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 28
  • Votes 2

@Jrock817 They allowed you to buy their contracts? That wasn't offered to us. I guess each seminar is a little different?

Post: Probably not going to Wholesale. Rehab instead!

Darrick P.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 28
  • Votes 2

Fresh from my FB seminar (Sunday March 3rd), my wife and I are excited and doing tons of research on which fork to travel down at the REI split. Initially; wholesaling seemed attractive but because it's the least expensive path to travel I have a feeling that the road is heavily congested.

We're patiently awaiting our first local REI Group meeting. I talked to my wife today and expressed my thoughts and asked her how she feels about doing rehabs instead. We've got close to 6 figures stashed (liquid) and in some markets that's enough to not need to raise additional capital for an entire deal.

It is my intention to JV with another, more seasoned investor for a couple/few deals. Has anyone taken this approach, the approach to finance their first deal alone?

Post: New Investor, Philadelphia PA

Darrick P.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 28
  • Votes 2

I'm Darrick,

a wet behind the ears investor in Philadelphia, PA - My wife and I are interested in interested in wholesaling to get our feet wet but because we have a few dollars socked away we have other options once we get a live feel for the business. We are mainly interested in building/creating passive income for ourself.

Post: Currently @ Fortune Builders $197 3 day seminar

Darrick P.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 28
  • Votes 2

I just got finished with the 3 day seminar today. I took tons of notes and was curious to meet / network with anyone who actually chose the Mastery program to see where they are at now with REI.

On day one there were about 200 people and I thought that was a lot. I attended with my wife as we figured the $197 wasn't a bad deal. Right from the start I told my wife that we were being pitched something else. I had no idea what Mastery was but I had a gut feeling that it was something NOT included in this three day seminar simply because of the way "mastery" was presented, and boy was I right.

The night of day 1 I came home and researched the Mastery program and when I told my wife the cost, she was like; no thanks. The troubling thing is this, for a weaker minded person they would have not been able to recognize the setup. The entire seminar revolves around the Mastery program and seeing just how many people "might qualify to be selected". Before the end of day one the speaker did an exercise and asked us, how many of us could raise 100k cash in 24hrs, not many hands went up. The speaker seemed troubled, the number was lowered from 100 to 50k and so on and so forth until it was down to 10k; which isn't even enough to buy the lowest priced Mastery program.

On day 2, fewer people showed up and on day 3 less showed up than on day 2, so much so that they removed seats from the room that we were in so there wouldn't be the appearance of a ton of empty seats. To my surprise some people, about 6 or 8 actually signed up for the Mastery program. I guess from the day 1 total that's about a just shy of a 5% conversion rate which, I guess isn't bad.

I know this for a fact; just starting out is tough and having a blueprint to follow is great, I'm just not sure that blueprint is worth 25k. I could have also benefited from the walkthrough of a rehab job with a coach, I'm just not sure that walkthrough is worth 25k. Knowing exactly what contracts to use, what docs to file, what order to file the docs and use the contracts would be great. I said to my wife; man if this was 5k, we might consider it but then I said, if their system works so well; they should finance my first deal (a deal that their system will ensure is correct and that I would make money on) and take their 25k from the profit.

We knew before hearing the price from the speaker (because I researched it online) that the Mastery program was not for us. Not at this time. I told my wife, the only way to really learn this business is to do this business. Even if we don't make any "live" deals, we can go through the motions. We do plan on joining DIG (our local real estate investing group).

There was a lot of great "surface" info from the seminar, but nothing really in depth. The instructor did make some live phone calls with FSBO's he had us pull from the internet. That was very interesting however I was expecting to get hand held through an entire deal; from the buy and or sell side of things and that didn't happen. I would have to sign up for the Mastery program for that.

Do I think the $197 was well spent? I'm not sure because I don't think I'm in any better place than I was at the beginning of day 1. I could have probably read a couple of books and got the same info for 1/4 the price. There was so much info spread over the three days mixed with sales pitching the Mastery program blended with tons of inspirational speech that you leave feeling good about the seminar but not because you learned anything valuable but because you just completed three days of very good motivational speaking.